In Need Of A Car Alarm Asap!

[RajiBoi]

hey all,

i recently got my 34, but it has no alarm system, just the stock central locking. I went to autobarn yesterday and got told that for a Viper 5701 with full installation, it will cost me $760.

Do you reckon thats a good price? if not, where else in melbourne (preferably near dandenong or scoresby) can i get a good deal with alarms including installation.

i also want to try get the full package, which is turbo timer and remote start. (not fussed about what the remote looks like)

thanks!

[jrm]

Make sure the Viper 5701 meets Australian standards. The Australian standards require things like:

• All Black Wiring
  
• Minimum two points of immobilisation
  
• automatically/passively immobilise the vehicle approximately 30 seconds after the ignition is turned off
  

I believe there is also Australian Standards testing they need to undertake to meet the requirements for insurance purposes. Also note you'll not be able to use the remote start/turbo-timer features - ADR 25 requires that the normal function of the engine only occurs when the ignition lock is in the engine on position.

[Chris Rogers]

forget about the Viper units and forget about RS. illegal in every state and its a defect if you get caught with it.

take JRMs advice.

actually disregard her adivce. someone will take the car from underneath your nose anyway.

given that most of the viper stuff is suited for the US market and drops 1 POINT on the car the are good for wank features only.

if we are talking a THATCHAM ALARM (The old ones were 460/480XV ) they are stds approved and van do a fair bit of stuff IF installed properly.

properly to me is a full interior strip and the unit buried.

ask whoever quoted you that price if they do that

[RajiBoi]

but i thought viper was "No.1"

im a little confused, so you guys are saying that i shouldnt and/or cant get this viper system?

Wouldnt it be by australian standards if it is sold by autobarn?

if i cant get viper, then what do u recommend i get?

I am def looking to get something with a turbo timer and preferably remote start.

[bigkevracer]

The recommendation around here is Australian Standards approved. Mongoose, Cyclops, AutoWatch, etc. As long as it's AS Approved and installed properly, as Chris said above.

Viper 5701 isn't AS approved. And I don't think any alarm with a turbo timer or remote start would be AS Approved, since both are defectable in Aus. Insurance companies don't count non AS approved alarms.

Viper aren't "No. 1" in anything other than marketing. They're pretty good at that

When I went looking, most of the AS Standard ones don't have any bells or whistles. They have two point immobilisation, black wire, and just do the one thing you REALLY want them to do.

Would you rather have remote start, or have the car still parked there so you can put the key in it and drive off?

Do you really need a turbo timer though? Is it that hard to let the car warm down or drive off boost for 30 seconds before you turn it off?

[Chris Rogers]

  On 24/10/2011 at 12:27 PM, RajiBoi said:

but i thought viper was "No.1"

im a little confused, so you guys are saying that i shouldnt and/or cant get this viper system?

Wouldnt it be by australian standards if it is sold by autobarn?

if i cant get viper, then what do u recommend i get?

I am def looking to get something with a turbo timer and preferably remote start.

thats fine. find someone that will insure you with it

[wlspn]

They'll probably insure him. As far as take the premium...

It will be when something goes wrong that you'll find out what they think of the illegal alarm. Fine if car goes missing & is never seen again but if it is recovered, damaged, etc, you may not be covered

[Carbon 34]

Ive installed vipers since they started making them, not one car has ever been stolen !!!! and only 1 brain died in all those years on a hornet model. Direct electronics makes some good alarms. Ive had some of the so called insurance approved alarms here and they failed !!!! or a car I bought had one , junk and huge remotes with no range.

Vipers can be insured but like everything you have to go thru great lengths to install correctly. not slap it under the steering wheel. ands a black harness doesnt stop shite. a multi layer security system and a bucket load of common sense is the way to stop crims. australian car theft is rampant way worse then LA california . the laws here dont punish harsh enough to make it stop !!!!!

for the last time who needs a turbo timer, its ghey , just sit in your car for a min longer while you gather your stuff

remote start is for snow mostly, for those of us who have enjoyed a frozen shut car door in a couple of feet of snow know how nice a toasty car is . sure you could use if for firing up your A/C but really is it worth it ?

my extremely serious alarm of choice has both, and its not hooked up

viper installs from autobarn 99% of the time wont meet standards for insurance they just dont have time alloted for it .....if your car got nicked and it was found unburned

Edited October 26, 2011 by Carbon 34

[mr031]

dont go to autobarn, go to your local sparkie, will be cheap and a better install than some kid working on it