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Ok so the car is going back into the tuners monday to have a look at the tune, as the problems that I have described that werent appearing on the dyno the other day. But to overlook it being the car, I plugged my spare normal power fc I have sitting here in with the AFM and the car drove perfect today. The car will be looked at for free. Although poeple are saying to go with a different tuner and why ditch the proven setup, if im paying the cost of getting another tune elsewhere....then I want a a much newer, better ecu to be tuned.

I wont go the normal power fc with afm because is A; the cost Nismo items are 700-900 or the z32s are 600 with an 600-800 piping kit. and b; I had one of my afm's on my gtr die already and I dont wish to take that risk again for the tune or replacement afm cost.

If im spending that much money on getting AFM's with piping, then it makes more sense to buy the haltech or vipec/link for similar money, with 32x32 mapping, much more features and generally 10 years more technology than the aging power fc. I love my normal power fc, but it just seems silly spending that much money on the intake system when I could have a newer more mappable ecu for the same/less cost without afm.

I have been reccomended the haltech by my tuner and many others in my area. I will keep an update on whats happening.

haltech actually has sequential ignition, where as the vipec plug in runs batch fire.. haltech has more bells and whissles. and is quite easy to tune. + support is very good. where as vipec support is non existant ive found.

you can run afms or map sensor with the haltech.

haltech actually has sequential ignition, where as the vipec plug in runs batch fire.. haltech has more bells and whissles. and is quite easy to tune. + support is very good. where as vipec support is non existant ive found.

you can run afms or map sensor with the haltech.

what are you going on about ?

The vipec runs sequential fuel, and uses wasted spark, the vipec has more bells and whistles then the haltech really.

The Vi-pec support comming out of LINK NZ is very good. whenever I need anything I just give them a message or call on Skype and we are all sorted, we don't have to bother picking up the phone anymore? where else can you get that kinda support?

things have changed in the vipec world, BUT it still is the premium product and has more to offer then the link does.

The Link G4 is just a badged Vipec, if it were the other way around where is the Vipec G2 G3 's ? there are none. The VIPEC came and then link made it available.

As for vipecsupport bieng non existent, what planet are you on?! That is by far the best thing about going to a viper that I've found. Ray will literally walk on fire to make sure you have got the product and end user support you want and need, and the features on such a low cost unit are impressive. They are easy to tune and the auto tune Is designed for six year olds to use, it really is that easy. Whatever way you go, haltech or vipec, you are getting a quality product, and I would buy either, but neither deserves a bashing.

Cheers, allan

i thought about the vipec and autronic, but decided i will go with the haltech plug in, has everything i need can run dual maps and i am not personally a fan of the wasted spark setup, the tuner deals with haltech was happy to tune the others but price wise and ease of support with the haltech i think its on the money all up $2500 fitted and tuned :)

what are you going on about ?

The vipec runs sequential fuel, and uses wasted spark, the vipec has more bells and whistles then the haltech really.

The Vi-pec support comming out of LINK NZ is very good. whenever I need anything I just give them a message or call on Skype and we are all sorted, we don't have to bother picking up the phone anymore? where else can you get that kinda support?

things have changed in the vipec world, BUT it still is the premium product and has more to offer then the link does.

The Link G4 is just a badged Vipec, if it were the other way around where is the Vipec G2 G3 's ? there are none. The VIPEC came and then link made it available.

Other way round :) And just because there weren't Vipec V33/22 ect doesn't mean anything. Vipec was a 'brand' launched when Link made the G4 range. That's all there is to it.

Link made the hardware and have the G4/Storm etc range.. and for some reason decided to create another brand for other markets. Not sure why people are still confused about this?

see below...

from the link website:

History:

Link was one of the very early market entrants twenty years ago. 2010 witnessed a turn-around in the market perception of the Link name thanks to the technical excellence of its product. The launch of the ViPEC brand has seen a new product pitched against high end competitors with outstanding results. Continued clear and unambiguous differentiation is further required to propel the ViPEC name higher

haltech actually has sequential ignition, where as the vipec plug in runs batch fire.. haltech has more bells and whissles. and is quite easy to tune. + support is very good. where as vipec support is non existant ive found.

you can run afms or map sensor with the haltech.

I found it the other way. more Vipec > Haltech.

Why not wolf V500?

I am running a wolf v500 in my 33 GTR same features as the vipec but quite a few more.

All depending on the tuner's preference but I ran both Power FC and Wolf V500. The features in the Wolf are IMO alot better than both Haltech and Vipec along with support being excellent.

i just prefer the way the haltech is set up. they have taken all the good bits from alot of the more established ecus and combined them into 1 ecu. as far as support goes. a sydney distributer i have tried to contact is never available.

as far as featurs go, the haltech has all you could really need. it can be tuned in ve mode or injection time mode. just a easy as pie ecu to get set up and tuned. drilling out a factory ecu case and retrofitting a whole circuit board into it is abit dodgy. its not a nistune....

One thing i don't like about the Vipec is all the claims about it being 100% sorted and much better than anything on the market. Theres often problems and when you ask about the problem you get "Yes we know about that and will have a fix soon" Thats not sorted or the best on the Market.

Haltech have been great, new firmware is sent out for free as soon as its ready so you can stay upto date, They understand things move on fast in the ECU world so don't make silly claims about being the greatest like Vipec people did.

at the end of the day, they're both great choices and with most features than most would use. If your tuner and others in the area are going with Haltech, that would seem to be the most logical choice.

Once you've got it in, get the car setup for flex-fuel :D

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if there is the ability for it to take a digital signal input (like the G4) then you should be able to setup Flex-fuel - much better than the 'two map' scenario.

Im potentially looking at a new ecu for my 34gtr, currently running power fc djetro but I want something that is a lot smoother.

So... your post implies that it's not possible to have a smooth tune with an fc djetro, and it seems everyone agrees with you as no-one has said "just get it tuned properly". Am i missing something?

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