skyline as first car

[sammus]

as driving a powerful car on L's is risky.

as if ! dad/mum being there with you makes it safe. i drive a mustang on my L's

[The_Paladin]

the 2 guys i knew who were skyline owners (both young 20's) had crashes due to the cars power......both were turbo 32's

start low and build up............dont tie yourself to such an investment at such a young age. ALL your money will go into such a car, plenty of time for that.........

a N/A 32 or something would be a good one though...........cheaper, less powerful, lower insurance!

[[SweN]]

my mate was in vic for about 2 years, but could have the car because of his qld licence and it was registered here. he fell asleep on a long drive that he should have stopped during and did some damage. dont know how this affected his insurance, but he was only 19 at the time iirc. he is still paying a shitload for a since-bought-unmodified-car (cept stereo which we did) and insurance is still killing him.

[Blade]

Mate THE SAFEST TIME TO DRIVE A SKYLINE IS ON YOUR L's...

Havent u read getting their Learners guide etc...

most accidents occur in your 1st year of dirving, so yeah statistics are against us driving a high powered car with not much experience

But hey take some defensive dirving courses and practice u have nothing to worry about...any car is dangerous depending on how you drive it

[LastTemptation]

drive a high powered car as soon as u can, get ur experience with ur parents if u have to.. then ull be right when u got ur p's. i got my skyline on my p's. saved up and got it myself. infact there is nothing better then buying ur own dream. go ahead and do it mate. only problem is if u become on of them statistics, then we will start a new thread and say things like.. TO MUCH POWER.... shame died to younge.. well if u die, thats alright.. but not if u become a disabled ex skyline driver at the age of 18... also any one can drive a high powered car if they are smart.. my sister drives my skyline, infact she drives more safe then me..

[aybee]

how about you just worry about getting your Ls before you even think about what car you are going to get.

i think that you should wait before you get a skyline. its just too much car for a new driver. i would never get in a skyline with a new driver, i value my life too much.

my first car was an alfa 75, which i drove for about 2 years. when i first got it i thought it was the fastest thing ever and that it handled on rails. it was good experience before stepping up to a skyline.

plus if your going to have a crash, which unfortunately is very common for p plate males, i'm sure you would rather be going 40 around a corner in a datto than 180 into a pole racing someone (cause that is what your going to be tempted to do).

just remember there's plenty of time to get a fast car.

[r33skylinegtst]

Sorry people, but ANY car can be dangerous on the roads, to yourself or others. So it's got a turbocharger, BIG DEAL! If you drive the car responsibly it shouldn't matter how much power your car produces (obviosuly within reason). Know your limits, save the stupid stuff for the track. I find it very ironic that the people who base their arguments on 'you're too young' are people who themselves take risks in their car, such as speeding, or dragging other people. Sorry but i doesn't matter how old you are, anyone can be a danger on the roads when they start breaking the laws and doing stupid things, and they can be a danger in any car.

Don't drag this down to a simple matter of age, you will find there are younger people with more mature attitudes when it comes to driving then some of the older people on this forum.

If you can afford it, go for it.

[sammus]

:werd:

I?ve heard so many ****ing times 'now I?ve learned my lesson and I won't do it again after 3 suspensions'.

[Elithrar]

Sorry people, but ANY car can be dangerous on the roads, to yourself or others. So it's got a turbocharger, BIG DEAL! If you drive the car responsibly it shouldn't matter how much power your car produces (obviosuly within reason). Know your limits, save the stupid stuff for the track. I find it very ironic that the people who base their arguments on 'you're too young' are people who themselves take risks in their car, such as speeding, or dragging other people. Sorry but i doesn't matter how old you are, anyone can be a danger on the roads when they start breaking the laws and doing stupid things, and they can be a danger in any car.

Don't drag this down to a simple matter of age, you will find there are younger people with more mature attitudes when it comes to driving then some of the older people on this forum.

If you can afford it, go for it.

I'm going to have to agree with you there.

Unfortunately, stereotypes and prejudices work against us young people; the media amplifies it to an extent, but then again, most young people in high powered cars bring the negative attention onto themselves. The fact that they're driving a Skyline (or other such car) goes to their heads; they're out there to prove something -- either to their friends, or the guy in the Silvia or V8 next to them.

The problem is, that those such people would probably find themselves in the same situations in whatever car they bought, be it an Escort or a Skyline. The Skyline just gets them to a higher speed more quickly -- given time in that Escort or whatever, they'll probably still do 160 km/h.

There's just not enough sensible young people around; heck, if I had a Skyline, and hopefully I will, I'd treat it like a god. Sure, the temptation to give it an absolute belting will always be there, and it will be worse when I'm with friends. But, when it comes to the crunch (pun intended), their lives (and mine) have a higher priority over a short bit of fun.

[Jolinator]

:werd:

[Bax]

I still disagree, I've been young and all of my friends were too, obviously, I remember what every single one of them were like. Some owning little charades, 121's. No matter how mature you say you are your going to find the urge to use your extra acceleration for crazy stuff.

Now when you try that crazy stuff, because you should, or else your not learning your own limits. When you try that stuff, would you rather be in a 20 thousand dollar skyline. or a 3 Thousand dollar shitbox.

There is no way a young male is gonna keep his foot off the gas no matter how mature he thinks he is.

[GILTY]

Don't get a Skyline as your fast car, as you will become a statistic. I had a Cortina as my first car and I nearly killed myself many times with MUCH less power. I was crazy back then and I can almost guarentee that I would either be dead or very badly injured if I had my Skyline about 7 years ago...

As for driving, you have to be a good driver if you want to get the best from your Skyline and having a manual is a must unless you want dragging only.

[Yotis]

Hello Forum Readers

I am interested in purchasing a 1997 r33 gtst in 2-3 years time. This month i will be applying for my learners and I am obsessed with cars. I have some questions about skylines which i hope you will be able to answer.

1. Is a skyline a great first car.

2. Is it safe to purchase a car from import sites. ie prestigemotorsport.com.au. If you know anyother sites could you please post it.

3. As all r33 skylines are second hand how is their performance compared to a new ford, hyndai, kia etc

4. Is it hard to obtain car loan/insurrance for a skyline r33.

5. Will the price of a 1997 skyline r33 gtst drop in 2 - 3 years time.

Thankyou for your time and help.

Regards

Patrick

1. Yes its a great car.. but like some of the people here you shouldnt start on a turbo straight away.. I had an excel for ~4 years and it was great, coz it was under warranty.. one problem got it fixed under warranty.. Now I aint saying you should get an excel.. just try to get something with manufacturere warranty and resonably cheap to run (ie. fuel, rego, insurance).

2. Personally I like to see and test drive what I am purchasing.. but tats just me.

3. Depending on what car you are comparing to.. Ford's XR6T ? very comparable.. but it really depends on exactly what you are comparing to and what you want the car for.

4. Gettin your Ls soon ? No offence but good luck on getting full comp and b able to afford a skyline.

5. All cars depreciate.. sad to say it. but car is a very big expense..

Pretty much like what most people say here.. get something that is cheap, reliable n easy to maintain for a short while and at the same time save up for a skyline. Then later get a skyline.. Dont start with a skyline straight away coz that I am sure will not only send you broke but also when you have an accident you will regret it.

If you take out a loan to get the car then you will need full comp, unless the rules has changed.. full comp on skyline = big $$$.

I'm close to being 25 and just own my first skyline. my premium is just shy over $1500 a year thats with rating 1 and never had any traffic fines, etc. So you can work out how much it will cost you for your insurance.

And btw.. I never thrashed me first car depite what some people mentioned here about getting a first car to thrash..

Just my 2c worth.. hope it helps ya

[The_Paladin]

skylines are a purpose built car. that purpose is to go fast. yes anyone can be dangerous in any car but skylines are designed to be dangerous

bad move for a first car.

[StraightSix]

You should get a Mazda MX-5.

-cheap to run

-reliable as a stone axe

-rear wheel drive gives you experience for more serious cars

-manual trans

-nicely balanced handling, enough power to learn on but not so much that it will outrun your skill

-can only fit one passenger - limits the amount of peer pressure available to do stoopid stuff (plus you don't get as many people mooching rides)

-chicks dig convertibles

Cheers

J

[EJ]

You should get a Mazda MX-5.

-cheap to run

-reliable as a stone axe

-rear wheel drive gives you experience for more serious cars

-manual trans

-nicely balanced handling, enough power to learn on but not so much that it will outrun your skill

-can only fit one passenger - limits the amount of peer pressure available to do stoopid stuff (plus you don't get as many people mooching rides)

-chicks dig convertibles

Cheers

J

im wit chu there but there only 2 SEATERS

[EJ]

and if u got some money u can turbo charge them

[EJ]

there quick too

[r33skylinegtst]

The_Paladin > Skylines are 'designed to be dangerous'? No offence mate but that has to be the dumbest thing i've heard. The car isn't dangerous until you get someone doing the wrong thing in it. Like i said, there are young people here who probably have more mature attitudes towards driving then some of the older people here. I won't deny there are many young people who do stupid things in their cars, and yes, a Skyline can go faster in a shorter amount of time, but you can still get a Charade to do over 120km/h. And when you lose control of a car at that speed, that can be deadly.

My point is that if you can afford the car, you have the right attitudes and you aren't just buying it cause you wanna impress your mates or whatever, then go for it.

[Rekin]

Thankyou for all your replies.

As the issue about owning a skyline as a first car has many pros and cons I think it will be safe to wait until i get my P's. By then i should be aware of my limitations in driving a car and if I am ready to drive a skyline.

Thankyou once again for your help.

- Patrick