Legality Of Front Fenders

[ausdrift]

Are FRP front fenders illigal in Adelaide and/or Melbourne? Any problems?

[ausdrift]

anyone know?

[mad082]

what are the made from? if carbon then they will most likely be illegal.

[ausdrift]

FRP ones. Any problem with fitting them from a copper POV?

[mad082]

what is FRP? is it fibreglass, carbon, etc? if they are anything other than steel or alloy then they will most likely be illegal

[The Bogan]

Must meet ADR rules, AFAIK no guards and only 1 supplier in Aus meets ADR for Fibreglass bonnets.

A engineer may be able to pass them, maybe.

[StevenCJR31]

what is FRP? is it fibreglass, carbon, etc? if they are anything other than steel or alloy then they will most likely be illegal

Fibreglass Reinforced Plastic

[RBLUV]

Fibreglass Reinforced Plastic

Say what?

Fiberglass replacement part/panel is what FRP stands for

And no not legal in either state

[Zorro]

Say what?

Fiberglass replacement part/panel is what FRP stands for

lol ---> FRP meaning!

Most kit cars & some manufacturers cars are made from frp or carbon, kevlar and a few other alternate materials. So im sure it would be possible to get them engineered if need be.

I had frp panels all over one of my cars for several years, bonnet, boot, 1/4s, aprons etc, never had a problem with it. Probably no-one ever noticed, being painted?!

[NISSAN GTR]

Must meet ADR rules, AFAIK no guards and only 1 supplier in Aus meets ADR for Fibreglass bonnets.

A engineer may be able to pass them, maybe.

Who is that supplier ?

[The Bogan]

Blits in Brisbane

[Triptych]

The supplier of Fibreglass bonnets with ADR approval is Blits Bodykits in QLD. I am unsure if there approval carries over to other states or not as I am unsure on how the whole process works.

The website is http://www.blitsbodykits.com.au/

[zebra]

lol ---> FRP meaning!

Most kit cars & some manufacturers cars are made from frp or carbon, kevlar and a few other alternate materials. So im sure it would be possible to get them engineered if need be.

problem is when you change from steel to FRP or even aluminium (GTR guards etc) it changes the "crash worthyness" of the car, hence making it un-roadworthy.

It sucks because front guards are not structural, but in the even of a prang fibreglass/carbon splinters will spray everywhere, even more so if you hit a pedestrian.

If you have the budget to crash test all your panels (like blits did) i.e crash your car into a wall a few times then you can produce adr approved stuff.

I'd be dubious if an engineer will touch stuff like that, but it may be possible given enough cash.

In saying that I had a Carbon bonnet on the R33 for years an never got picked up on it.

[mad082]

lol ---> FRP meaning!

Most kit cars & some manufacturers cars are made from frp or carbon, kevlar and a few other alternate materials. So im sure it would be possible to get them engineered if need be.

I had frp panels all over one of my cars for several years, bonnet, boot, 1/4s, aprons etc, never had a problem with it. Probably no-one ever noticed, being painted?!

completely different rules apply for kit cars to mass production cars. same with hot rods when run on limited rego

[NISSAN GTR]

Blits in Brisbane

BRISBANE , i thought so = NO RULES

[StevenCJR31]

Say what?

Fiberglass replacement part/panel is what FRP stands for

And no not legal in either state

wikipedia says FRP stands for fibreglass reinforced plastic . . . BUT in this context means something else

[Triptych]

BRISBANE , i thought so = NO RULES

Just a quick quote from the blits website.

"BLITS is the first Australian company in Australia to manufacture street legal fibreglass bonnets, that made for federal regulation transport approval Australia wide".

So it would appear they are approved for use in all states and not just QLD.

[BLITZ-26]

called RTA no problem with fiberglass guards .... then called an engeineer here no problem went over the pits with mine 30mm fiberglass front and rear guards passed no worries words stated to me by the inspector " i have no problem with these as they dont fall under any ADR restrictions" ? he also had no problem with my bonnet pins?

anyway not sure in melbourne but call and ask if you can or not?

[StevenCJR31]

Sounds like the legality of FRP will be state specific

[The Bogan]

2.7.1 Strength and Thickness

The thickness, of non-intrusion panels, with gel coat removed, must be at least 3.5mm.

Bonnets and guards are examples of non-intrusion panels

The strength and thickness of structural components such as floorpans and bodies that

incorporate seatbelt anchorages, door hinges and latches etc., must be certified by a signatory.

The fixings for replacement fibreglass panels should have the same positions and must have at

least the same strength as the fixings used for the original panels. A combination of steel and

neoprene washers of a minimum 20mm diameter should be used with all fixings.

Seat and seatbelt anchorages, door hinges and latches must only be affixed to fibreglass

panels, floorpans or bodies that have been reinforced to take the loads such components are

capable of generating both in normal use and in a crash.

4.3.2 Fibreglass and Other Composite Replacement Panels

Original bolt-on metal bonnets and mudguards for pre 1971 (ADR 10) vehicles may be replaced

with fibreglass or other composite panels that comply with sub-section 2.7, providing the

modification does not increase the rigidity of the front structure of the vehicle and the

collapsibility of the steering column on ADR 10 vehicle is not compromised.

The catches and/or the design of the replacement bonnet must prevent it from being propelled

through the windscreen into the cabin area in the event of a frontal collision.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP6_Section_LH_Body_and_Chassis_01Jan2011_v3.pdf

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx

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