Budget Ecu's

[Rolls]

When it comes down to easy to use software, which package comes out on top, the only software I've ever used is Motec and it is brilliant, it however is prohibitively expensive to buy.

Pretty much all the ECUs listed have enough features for most people to do what they want, when it comes down to just being easy to use, intuitive and painless what software wins here?

If would be interesting to hear from people who have used multiple packages, always hard to tell what the case is when someone recommends something if that is all they have used, or they have compared it to others.

1. 0 aux outputs

2. inability to do wheel speed over boost

3. inability to do windscreen wiper speed over wheel speed over TPS over engine temp

4. inability to do multi level rev limit

5. it's not red

lol

Edited November 26, 2011 by Rolls

[Ryan1200]

I have a m800 for my race car and had thoughts of converting my GTR to motec but I can't bring myself to removing the trusty old PFC ljetro it's the nicest driving modified car I have ever driven cold starts like factory and has had the same tune in the ecu for 3years.. For me in my street car the PFC was the best 1k that I spent out of the 100k. Lol

[Rolls]

Sounds more like the tune was the best $1k you spent haha

[Ryan1200]

^^ yep a ecu is only as good as the tuner couldnt be happier with both.. +1 for PITS Matt Spry..

[Piggaz]

I have a m800 for my race car and had thoughts of converting my GTR to motec but I can't bring myself to removing the trusty old PFC ljetro it's the nicest driving modified car I have ever driven cold starts like factory and has had the same tune in the ecu for 3years.. For me in my street car the PFC was the best 1k that I spent out of the 100k. Lol

Really?

After going from the dinosaur PFC to a MAP based plug in link, I couldn't be happier. Same tuner and fuel and my cold starts have been better than ever. That includes being on 1/3rd the size injectors on pump fuel!

ATM it's first time everytime on E85! The Link doesn't fluff around like the FC did.

[Ryan1200]

Some tuners obviously have there favourites and one of Matts is the PFC so yeah tune up's perfect. Only fluffs the FC has given over 7years is that slight cut for a split m/sec that every FC seem to do although i cant remember the last time it did it.. For a ECU that was developed in the 90's and can PNP in minutes its a pretty solid option that has served me well...

[EAT26]

if we can reliably make well over 900hp from a PFC.... what shortcoming did you find that we didnt? question not criticism.

My powerfc died but I found the wolf made the car feel and drive alot better.

I found the powerfc had the stumble which alot of them do.

1. 0 aux outputs

2. inability to do wheel speed over boost

3. inability to do windscreen wiper speed over wheel speed over TPS over engine temp

4. inability to do multi level rev limit

5. it's not red

Mainly because its red for sure...

No, just the way Sean explained how he can tune the wolf over the powerfc or over the other brands sold me.

Along with the Aux outputs.

[stocker]

best and cheapest ecu on the market is the link g4 same as a vipec v88...................even the vipec v88 plug n play harness will plug in to a link g4...........thats the euc im going buy at ther end of the year for $1599 is loaded with features

[zebra]

Which model G4?

[stocker]

Which model G4?

the g4 xtreme..................best bang for your buck............has more features then haltech ps2000,microtech,wolf etc.....................its up there with motec and vipec............they can even transplant the link g4 xtreme into your stand ecu box so straight pnp deal

here are the features of it but go the site and check them out very impressive units these links

Fueling

• Up to 440 Zone Fuel Table with configurable row and column centres. Configurable X and Y Axis Parameters
• Multiple Fuel Tables, internally or externally switchable
• Up to 6D Fuel Mapping
• AFR Target Table
• Individual Cylinder Fuel Correction (3D or single cell)
• Injection Drive Mode Saturated
• Injection Rate
• Master Enrichment
• Pre Crank Prime
• Crank Enrichment
• Post Start Enrichment
• Warm Up Enrichment
• Acceleration Enrichment
• IAT Fuel Correction
• Injector Deadtime Compensation
• Overrun Fuel Cut
• Idle Load Trims
• Fuel Temperature Correction

Ignition

• Up to 440 Zone Ignition Table with configurable row and column centres. Configurable X and Y Axis Parameters
• Dual Input Closed Loop Knock Control.
• Crank Dwell Extension
• Maximum Advance
• Spark Duration
• Beginning / End Injection Definable
• 3D Dwell Time Table. Configurable X and Y Axis Parameters
• Multiple Ignition Tables - internally or externally switchable
• Up to 6D Ignition Mapping
• Individual Cylinder Ignition Trim
• IAT Trim
• Voltage Correction
• ECT Trim
• OEM Compatibility - support for almost all factory and after-market igniters
• CDI Compatibility

Limits

• Engine Temperature Dependent Soft and Hard RPM Limit
• Engine Temperature Dependent Soft and Hard Boost Limit
• Vehicle Speed Limit
• System Voltage Limit
• User Configurable RPM Limit based on external input

Triggering

• Digital Trigger Decoding
• Reluctor, Optical Proximity or Hall Sensors
• Programmable filtering and arming thresholds
• Configurable trigger patterns or preset triggering options.
• Supports nearly all OEM trigger patterns and custom trigger arrangements

MotorSport Features

• Antilag Group A/Group N
• Launch/Traction Control
• Flat Shifting
• Staged Injection
• ECU Statistics Memory (max rpm, boost, etc.)

Auxiliary Output Options

• Each Output independently configurable
• Unused ignition and injection outputs available as auxiliary outputs
• General Purpose Output - combination of conditions
• General Purpose PWM - combination of conditions plus 3D table
• Continuously Variable Valve Timing Control
• Closed Loop Idle Speed Control (Solenoid or Stepper (4 & 6 Terminal))
• Fuel Pump
• Fuel Pump Speed Control
• Engine Fan
• Air Con Clutch
• Air Con Fan
• Intercooler Spray
• Tacho
• Check Engine Light
• Purge Solenoid
• Oxygen Sensor Heater
• Switched Cam Solenoid

Variable Valve Timing

• Up to 4 channel independent
• Precision Closed Loop Control
• 3D Target Tables with configurable X and Y axis controls
• Preset or Custom Configuration
• Supported Engines - 1UZFE VVTi; Subaru AVCS; EVO 9 VVT; BMW VANOS; Toyota 3SGE, 1ZZ, IJZ, 2NZ, 2JZ; Honda K20; Nissan VQ35; Ford V8; Holden V6; plus more being added every week

Communications

• Tuning Port USB on board
• Serial RS232
• CAN

Processing

• 40 MHz Specialised Engine Management Microprocessor
• Ignition control to 0.1 degree, fuel to 0.01 ms
• 32 Bit Calculation
• 10 Bit ADC Resolution
• 20000+ RPM
• 4MB Non Volatile Flash

Inputs/Output

• 8 Injection Channels
• 8 Ignition Channels
• 8 Auxiliary Outputs
• 10 Digital Inputs
• +5V Out
• +8V Out
• 4 Temperature Inputs
• 11 0-5V Analog Inputs
• 2 Trigger Inputs (Reluctor, Optical or Hall Sensors)
• On Board Baro Correction (Real Time)
• 2 Knock Inputs

Analog Inputs

• Each channel independently configurable with preset or custom calibrations
• Wideband O2 (from external controller)
• Boost Adjust Signal
• Configurable Fault Detection Settings
• Voltage (0-5V)
• Pyro (from external controller)
• Throttle Position
• Pressure (general purpose, fuel, oil)
• Air Flow Meter
• MAP
• Temperature (coolant, IAT, general purpose)
• Throttle Position
• Narrow Band O₂

Boost Control

• Engine Temp Correction
• IAT Correction
• Multiple Boost Tables
• External Adjustment

Idle Control

• Reliable and stable user configurable Closed Loop Control
• Solenoid or Stepper Motor ISC Valve (2 / 3 wire solenoid, 4 / 6 terminal stepper)
• Aircon, Engine Fan or Power Steer idle up
• Open Loop Control Mode for diagnostics

Environment

• Internal Temperature Range -10 - 85oC
• Ambient Temperature Range -30 - 90oC
• Voltage 8 - 22V
• Operating Current 200mA
• Electrical protection on all inputs and outputs

PCLink

• Adjust ALL parameters in real time
• Mouse or keyboard operation
• Tuning
• QuickTune - automated fuel self tuning
• Logging Analysis
• Diagnostic Information
• Comprehensive On-Line Help for all Tuning Functions
• Definable Screen Layouts
• View over 300 possible runtime parameters

Physical

• Length: 167 mm
• Width: 126 mm
• Height: 42 mm
• Weight: 640 grams
• Connector : 2 x 34 Pin Waterproof Automotive

Package Contents

• Xtreme G4 ECU
• 2 x 2.5 Metre Wiring Harness (loom A & B)
• Mounting Brackets and Screws
• Wiring and Installation Instructions

Additional Accessories (Purchased Separately)

• Intake Air Temperature Sensor
  • 3/8 NPT
  • Bosch push in
  • 14mm (Aluminium or Steel Mounting Bosses to suit)

  [*]Throttle Position Sensor[*]1,2 or 3 Channel Link Igniter[*]Narrowband Oxygen Sensor[*]Wideband O2 Controller & Sensor[*]MAP Sensors

  • 2.5 bar absolute (1.5 bar boost)
  • 5 bar absolute (4 bar boost)

[zebra]

Thanks for the copy paste even though we were talking about the other links earlier

Who did you get it though for 1700 bucks?

[stocker]

havent got it yet early next year i be getting one rrp is $1600.......................plus the guys at link in NZ are really helpful and go out of their way for ya too...................i had a wolf v500 sold cause no one wanted to touch it..............invested that money into a hypertune inlet manifold

[zebra]

That seems entirely reasonable, no plugin for a jza70 though

Which for that price range the v500 plugin seems a better deal as I am useless with a soldering iron lol

Or the aem unit I linked earlier at 1200 bucks. Still unsure what that comes with as the base aem ecu if more expensive than that

[stocker]

lol........aem wouldnt touch them with a 50 foot pole had rocco's replace a aem cdi unit 3 times and all 3 blew up with in 5 weeks of each other on my old la lancer 2.6t...........changed it over to a crane item FTW...............in the states they have alot of issues with the aem ecu troll thru supra forum us and see the threads on defective aem ecu's

Edited November 28, 2011 by stocker

[scotty nm35]

havent got it yet early next year i be getting one rrp is $1600.......................plus the guys at link in NZ are really helpful and go out of their way for ya too...................i had a wolf v500 sold cause no one wanted to touch it..............invested that money into a hypertune inlet manifold

I have been emailing Link about getting the extreme to work on the VQ25det, they didnt seem all that interested but said it should do the job. The extra modules (elec throttle, 5 bar map etc) add a fair bit to the cost but the unit on its own seemed to be around 2k, where did you get that price?

[zebra]

I haven't come across any but will have a look. Cheers

[zebra]

I have been emailing Link about getting the extreme to work on the VQ25det, they didnt seem all that interested but said it should do the job. The extra modules (elec throttle, 5 bar map etc) add a fair bit to the cost but the unit on its own seemed to be around 2k, where did you get that price?

This is the sort of price I have seen around too

[stocker]

here sorry its $1599 my mistake

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Link-G4-Xtreme-ECU-/170726481229?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c0175d4d

[zebra]

I would rather not buy off some random on eBay

[stocker]

hes very trusted seller heaps of guys on sf have brought the tial gates/bov's off him.............ive even brought twin 38mm mvs gates off him for 550 delivered............got them checked by mtq and precesion tiurbo's both said they are the real deal............that who im buying my link thru