Formula One 2012

[dezz]

If Massa drove like this all season, imagine where Ferrari would be in terms of constructors championship.... Alonso has accumulated 70% of the points for Ferrari and they're still in second..

[89CAL]

Heres some interesting news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19941541

Vettel to Ferrari in 2014 apparently

Kimi to Red bull in 2014? Kimi has gone alot of his Career with Red Bull sponsership etc and there will probably be 2 open seats there........

Discuss, where the hell is everyone going

[djr81]

Kobi is great, He is a goo, aggressive overtaker. Generally a tough and generally fair racer with turns of speed. Perez is a great talent, but looking at Buttons years of being lost in cars and setup. His performance in the Brawn after the first 8 races and more recently in the McLaren it doesn't fill you with confidence that he can properly convey to engineers and designers what he wants the car to be doing. He knows all too well what he doesnt like about it when lapping...but I agree the two of them look to be compounding each others weaknesses and in a year where status quo is going to be simimilar and the bottom teams continue to find the fractiosn of time that the big teams found 12 months ago...its will be easy to see Macca no. 3-5 in the constructors.

I was shocked last night to see that Ferrari have overtaken them for 2nd in the WCC. Its a joke that with the car McLaren have had and Massa's absenteeism for most of the year that they are 3rd.

Of the driver movement left the only one that is of interest to me is Williams line up. I cant see them giving Bottas the leg up...they have too much pace at the moment not to have a more experienced punter in the seat. I think Jaimie or Hulk are a chance.

Yeah you are right Perez & Button look to be too similar or atleast share the same lack of pace in qualifying. Doesnt bode well.

Thought the Hulk was going to Sauber?

Williams will need coin irrespective of who drives for them. So Pasta & A N Other. Guessing it will be Botox if Senna doesnt find something magical in qualifying real soon. their share price went up off the back of their win, wonder where it is now?

Here you go:

http://quotes.wsj.com/XE/WGF1/interactive-chart

Edited October 15, 2012 by djr81

[Roy]

I hope Hulk doesn't go to Sauber. Many are saying its a done deal but would really like the guy to go back to Williams

[tweety bird]

Heres some interesting news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/19941541

Vettel to Ferrari in 2014 apparently

Kimi to Red bull in 2014? Kimi has gone alot of his Career with Red Bull sponsership etc and there will probably be 2 open seats there........

Discuss, where the hell is everyone going

vettel, i really don't think so...

kimi, maybe.

[tweety bird]

i could see vettel becoming all patriotic and going to merc though.

[Berk]

I can't see Seb and Hamo being team mates.

[tweety bird]

why not?

they have a lot in common.

they both have been known to blame the team for their lack of performance on occasion.

they're both winging little bitches.

ect..

[dezz]

Felipe Massa will be granted a stay of execution at Ferrari as the Italian stable is set to retain him as they have to wait until 2014 for Sebastian Vettel.

It's been said before and no doubt it will be said again and again but this time it's coming from 'sources inside Ferrari' - and just hours after the German grabbed the lead in the Drivers' Championship.

According to a fresh report on the BBC on Monday morning, 'sources inside Ferrari say they have signed a contract with Vettel, 25, with an option to join in 2014 depending on their results.'

The report added that the 'contract is likely to define a position Ferrari must occupy in the title race at a point in 2013.'

However, it's not just Ferrari's position in the standings that counts for something as there is also Fernando Alonso's thoughts to consider.

That Spaniard, though, has 'sanctioned' Vettel's arrival having reportedly 'vetoed the idea of Lewis Hamilton joining the team earlier this year.'

And all this is great news for Massa as it means the Brazilian, who claimed his first podium of the season in Japan two weeks ago, will secure another season with Ferrari.

"If I want to anticipate the next question that I'm sure someone will ask, very soon you will know what will be our position in that respect," said team boss Stefano Domenicali in Korea on Sunday as he pre-empted questions about Massa's future.

"For sure he's understanding now better the car, he's understanding better the tyres.

"We believe that he's a very, very strong driver, there's no doubt, because otherwise we would already have taken a different decision."

http://planetf1.com/news/3213/8165922/-Vettel-To-Join-Alonso-At-Ferrari-In-2014-

[Roy]

The Vettel to Ferrari is BS. Vettel is all about the stats and come end of 2013 he isnt going to leave the team that has won 3, perhaps 4 out of 4 of the last WCCs and given him at least 2 WDCs, perhaps 3. His best bet to beat all the records he is so concerned about it to drive for the strongest team. Smart money is on RBR again next year....and sure engine is a change up but with new fresh rules RBR will be a good team as long as they have funding and Newey and others around him

The inside Ferrari F1 team contact is no different to the BMW mechanic i spoke with years ago after he first signed with RBR. The guy winked and said we have an option and when its right for us we will bring him back to partner Kubica. So much for that scoop.

[Roy]

Another thing...Frankly its probably just Ferrar rumour to try to and disturb Vettel and RBR concentration going into the final few rounds on the 2012 season...head to head with Nando. Any disruption they can put in the RBR camp they will

[tweety bird]

Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo has denied signing Sebastian Vettel, saying that would only create "instability" within the team.

Fresh reports emerged on Monday in which a 'source inside Ferrari' told the BBC that Vettel is expected to head to the Italian stable in 2014.

'Sources inside Ferrari say they have signed a contract with Vettel, 25, with an option to join in 2014 depending on their results,' reported the Beeb, who added that the German's arrival had been 'sanctioned' by Fernando Alonso.

However, di Montezemolo was quick to deny the claims, insisting that two very strong drivers at Ferrari would cause more harm than good.

"I've always said that I don't want two roosters in the hen-house," the Ferrari president told Italian radio station, RAI.

"I don't like that and it creates instability in the team."

But while Vettel is out, it appears as if Felipe Massa, whose form as improved of late resulting in a top-three finish in Japan, is in.

Asked about the Brazilian's future, di Montezemolo revealed that he would talk with Massa at length on Tuesday "and then we'll make a decision."

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/8166139/Big-Boss-Rejects-Seb-To-Ferrari-Claims

[dezz]

He's pretty subtle about what he thinks of Massa in that article lol

[JAS-25T]

If he wasn't just calling Massa the little bitch, I don't know what that was.

[wolverine]

Pretty much just been called Nando's little bitch again.

It can't hurt to have it reconfirmed by your boss to the world media.

[89CAL]

I could only see Vettel at Ferrari if Alonso wasn't there

No idea when his contract runs out, but I dont see him leaving anytime soon

I still think Kimi to Red Bull might be on the cards but. Time will tell

[ctjet]

Seb would be insane to move to the red team

Redbull has it better in every way over ferrari, they haven't produced a decent car since the testing restrictions came in. Once forced to play fair, they clearly lack something within the team structure

The only way Vettel is going to be dislodged is when the new engines come in and somebody creates a monster. That will draw talent in the short term at least

[JAS-25T]

Talk about newey going with him might be a decent reason.

[tweety bird]

i could see newey going, he seems like the type of guy that would follow the money and ferrari has had a ''if you can't beat them buy them'' attitude in the past.

[wolverine]

If Seb has a conditional contract he can cherry pick when the time comes.