Rb25 Turbo Kit Help Making A Decsision.

[DaveO74]

Haha. We can borrow ur skirts. We all know u have a few

Far out Jez, that was meant to be a secret........what am I gonna do on Saturday nights now?????

[R31Nismoid]

enough talk, overlay the dyno plots.... lets see which has more under the curve...

and not using some demo car thats been tweaked to get a curve.

Problem with that is it’s not always telling the true story.

Take Garrett -9 & -5

-5 being the larger, more power… However…

Loaded in 4th, they come on almost around the same RPM, about 200-300rpm different. However on the street, on/off throttle you can clearly tell there is a massive difference between the two and it is much more than 200-300rpm.

[hypergear]

enough talk, overlay the dyno plots.... lets see which has more under the curve...

and not using some demo car thats been tweaked to get a curve.

Trent is a very experienced and reputable tuner here, he's not going to modify his dyno for me getting happy results and this is not what I'm after either. There is no tweaked demo car, what mods has been put into it is clearly listed in my thread. Have a read through it, pretty much every one's getting similar or better end results and there are also few whom are working through their builds.

The SS1PU billet comp wheel FNT layout is also in my thread, its a good idea to read.

[75coupe]

ahhh I see, so to the drags we go then eh...

or better still option video style touge battle RB25 - HG vs 2835ProS...Hei!!!

[75coupe]

Trent is a very experienced and reputable tuner here, he's not going to modify his dyno for me getting happy results and this is not what I'm after either. There is no tweaked demo car, what mods has been put into it is clearly listed in my thread. Have a read through it, pretty much every one's getting similar or better end results and there are also few whom are working through their builds.

The SS1PU billet comp wheel FNT layout is also in my thread, its a good idea to read.

Im not saying the dyno is being happy for you or anything like that, but your setup has obviously been gone over so many times and rejigged to get consistency its better to see results from people who have chosen a turbo, installed it and got it tuned so thats its totally not biased and a real world example, like were not grabbing results from the HKS demo car are we imagine the argument we would have if we did...

no here is saying anything bad about HG turbos themselves... just laying out the differences between the choice in turbo selection and whats involved to get the setups right.

[hypergear]

Im not saying the dyno is being happy for you or anything like that, but your setup has obviously been gone over so many times and rejigged to get consistency its better to see results from people who have chosen a turbo, installed it and got it tuned so thats its totally not biased and a real world example, like were not grabbing results from the HKS demo car are we imagine the argument we would have if we did...

no here is saying anything bad about HG turbos themselves... just laying out the differences between the choice in turbo selection and whats involved to get the setups right.

I have never rejiged the car for better result, I always rejiged the turbo for better result.

I specifically did not build a "demo" car for showing, I'm aware no one will get that sort of result with a every day car. My car's mods are basic and clearly listed, its just a healthy motor with stock head, cams, cam gears and manifolds, typical what most people has. Just Every thing working the way they should.

How ever diagnose what causes power lose is some thing that I'm in the process of sorting out, as every one runs different parts and have a mind of their own. Pretty much all customers whom have sorted their issues or followed my modification guide do end up getting similar end results.

[75coupe]

Im not having a go at you or your product and I didnt mean it to sound that way at all...

but I did say 'rejigged to get consistency' not better results

whether you like it or not your car that you post up results from using your turbos is your demo car...

and we've all read how you've set it up to be a normal reliable skyline that any run of the mill owner may have, and I thinks thats great.

but I still prefer the HKS turbo, no if or buts, I like what it does and I dont mind paying for what it offers, and no one can put forward and figures or controversy to say Im wrong in my opinion....

[Hanaldo]

but I still prefer the HKS turbo, no if or buts, I like what it does and I dont mind paying for what it offers, and no one can put forward and figures or controversy to say Im wrong in my opinion....

Yeh because you're not.

The HKS 2835ProS is a great turbo, no doubt about it. It's horses for courses, as much as I would love a 2835, I simply can't afford one nor can I find one. So I went with the Hypergear. Simple as that.

[75coupe]

I almost went for a hypergear as well...

so why is it that whenever a 'what turbo should I get for my rb25' comes up all the HG fans and mr HG himself come in and diss every other suggestion..???

[DJBarnstar]

How much is a 2835 Kit and where do you get one from??

[Hanaldo]

I wish there was a simple answer to that.

[75coupe]

http://www.part-box.com/product_info.php?products_id=10745

or you can try nengun, RHD japan or greenline

[Irwin123]

I think the 2835 pro s looks great,

However price and hard to find.... Also have to change exhast, not that it's a big deal.

Am I wrong in thinking the atr43ss -2 is quite similar as the hks 2835 pro s?

But at the end of the day with either turbo I'm sure it will still go fair well

[DaveO74]

^^^^^^^^^^ this has been my point for months 75 (post 89), glad I'm not the only one who thinks it.

I do kind of feel sorry for Stao in a way, he has in no doubt done great things for the rb25 community, and he often feels as though he needs todefend his product. There is nothing "wrong" with his turbos, I just believe In Some instances you get what you pay for.

I have admitted before that we have paid an inflated price for the hks tag but in the scheme of things it's really not tha much compared to say a Garrett equivalent when you take into account all the extra bits and peices you need to get the car running with a new turbo setup.

If I was to go back and do the whole highflow thing again (which I wouldn't) I would still by a HG, but when you get to a point of chasing bigger numbers I think the hks does come out on top, it's the HG fanboys that seem to get the sh1ts with these types of comments but as ash said above there is sooooooo much more than a dyno graph.

Those of us that are fortunate enough to have been able to get our hands on the 2835 know all too well just how good the car drive with this turbo, VERY fast but still transient and not snappy, and great off boost. IMO and it is just my opinion I believe that is what makes for the perfect turbo, not just having 300 killerwasps and getting thrown back in your seat, you still want a degree of controllability.

[75coupe]

any turbo you choose will be better than what you have, it all depends what you want and how particular you are with your choice.

other places to find a 2835

http://www.importmonster.com.au/view?url=http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f101446591&thumb=http://f0.auctions.c.yimg.jp/img319.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/8/1/6/4/kumpuru-thumb-12020896617273.jpg&title=OK%20HKS%20GT2835ProS%20ECR33%2034%20RB2DET

http://www.importmonster.com.au/view?url=http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n103985118&thumb=http://f1.auctions.c.yimg.jp/img317.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/2/3/9/8/tutumiwo-thumb-1315901442638579.jpg&title=HKS%20GT2835Pro%20R32R33R34S13S14S15%20OH

[DaveO74]

Yep they are still around you just gotto look for them. Took me a while to find a brand new one.

[75coupe]

and I actually scored a brand new 2835 ProS turbo for $1600 delivered....

I found the HKS intake pipe, for practically nothing (cant remember) and had a dump custom made for $250...

done... search, be patient and you will find...

[DaveO74]

WHAT!!!! Man that is a bargain, I have just added you to my sh1tlist hahahaa.

I paid twice that for the kit, you mongrel.

[75coupe]

then I shouldnt tell you about the other bargain parts Ive accumulated over the years, I search forever for the best price on parts.... like really search and wait until it pops up...

I could start a big list of bargin parts seriously

[Mick_o]

I personally think its wrong to compare the hks and the HG turbos as they arent even remotely in the same price league!

No doubt Mr HG offers great bang for ya buck its great to compare dynographs but is it like comparing an R35 to a Lamborgini???? quote name='Irwin123' timestamp='1323337455' post='6144921']

I think the 2835 pro s looks great,

However price and hard to find.... Also have to change exhast, not that it's a big deal.

Am I wrong in thinking the atr43ss -2 is quite similar as the hks 2835 pro s?

But at the end of the day with either turbo I'm sure it will still go fair well