What Else Do I Try To Rid Brake Squeeling?

[SargeRX8]

I feel your pain bro.

Same issue with my front brakes running standard rotors, stop squeel sealant, qfm A1RM pads, it is deafingly loud, just ask BSA.

After applying the sealant and remachining rotors, it went away for 5-10k kn and came back louder then ever.

Thinking of changin to remsa pads as well but it might just come back like in your situation. I am at a total loss with this so I just put up with it.... For now.

My old ebc green pads NEVER squeeled at all!!

Can we set fire to our cars together???

Don't bother changing pads, or rotors, nothing makes it go away. Its jittering somewhere. Either rotor to pad pad to caliper or caliper to hub. The way these pads are designed I doubt its rotor to pad. It seems to be pad to caliper. Lets see what happens with this shit I used. They say the key is to grease and lube up all moving parts and metal to metal contact points. I don't know how resistant this red shit is to heat from brakes or how long it lasts but I have a feeling it won't last long because when I bought these rotors they came with pads which had this red crap lining the shims and the noise was there. We can set fire to both our cars, the sound will be more pleasant than that braking sound.

Copper grease is what you want. That red goo just makes shit worse after a few weeks, I've tried it all a few times over.

This exactly. I was looking at a couple shops, couldn't find the stuff. SCA doesn't have it, my local shop doesn't have it so I just settled for shit I could find. Would repco have it? I cbf driving there. Only other place I found it was online. This stuff is meant to be good to about 1000c and you put this everywhere metal touches metal, between shims, between pad and shim. Does it eat away at rubber?

[BstewyR33]

I only ever get the high pitched squeal after a rainy day, and only a slight squeal when it's left for a couple of days- I had my rotors machined on the car and used the green brake shim grease that super cheap sell - spread it on each of the shims. And I'm using bendix ultimates

[dori34]

TBH i thought it was just the QFM pads that did this,

until you mentioned the same with REMSA.

I never had this issue with bendix or EBC's.

and it was the same rotors as well.

hmmm, maybe REMSA & QFM pads are both squeely mofos?

[SargeRX8]

I only ever get the high pitched squeal after a rainy day, and only a slight squeal when it's left for a couple of days- I had my rotors machined on the car and used the green brake shim grease that super cheap sell - spread it on each of the shims. And I'm using bendix ultimates

Is that the pirtek branded stuff that comes in a two sachet kind of pack?

TBH i thought it was just the QFM pads that did this,

until you mentioned the same with REMSA.

I never had this issue with bendix or EBC's.

and it was the same rotors as well.

hmmm, maybe REMSA & QFM pads are both squeely mofos?

I really don't know where the problem is. Some people use the QFM pads with no noise. I used to get noise from all 4's. After fitting in some of those Project Mu shims up front, I now only get noise from my rear passenger side. My wheel is spinning true and perfect, Ive put that red stuff everywhere I can, the grease stuff on all metal to metal points and still I get noise. It is certainly no where near as bad as before, its MUCH MUCH less now but it still happens.

[Ty1]

TBH i thought it was just the QFM pads that did this,

until you mentioned the same with REMSA.

I never had this issue with bendix or EBC's.

and it was the same rotors as well.

hmmm, maybe REMSA & QFM pads are both squeely mofos?

i hope the remsa pads aren't noisy...i just bought a set for the fronts lol

[BstewyR33]

Is that the pirtek branded stuff that comes in a two sachet kind of pack?

Permatex is the brand - but yes 2 little sachets of it - goes on all the shims, I even put it on the pins. Apply liberally. I only used about half to 1 sachet

http://m.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/Permatex-Ultra-Disc-Brake-Caliper-Lube-14G/113948

[SargeRX8]

Permatex is the brand - but yes 2 little sachets of it - goes on all the shims, I even put it on the pins. Apply liberally. I only used about half to 1 sachet

http://m.supercheapa...Lube-14G/113948

Permatex yeah, not pirtek f**k thats the hose fittings company lol. Yeah I used this red stuff on pins and parts of the shims, but put the red paste between the metal shims. Ill probably pull them out again and put this stuff everywhere.

[BstewyR33]

Hope it works for ya mate - nothing worse than brakes screaming all the bloody time

As I said I only get squeal after rain or after I haven't driven for a day or so & that I think it mostly caused by surface rust on the rotor (could be wrong)

[Carbon 34]

This is going to sound dodgy but it works everytime

Take the pads off while laying on the concrete face down give them a few seconds of swirl to fluff up the top layer , it should leave some crap on the comcrete , now use a file file and place in grove feather the groove all the pad edges need be rounded off a bit , just a little !!

Do all the pads , copper grease lightly the slides and any contact points ( you can see all the silver rub marks )

If you have backing shims glue them to the pad with permatex blue brake stuff

if your handbrake is dragging thats another story

But this has always fixed every car , unless you run full race pads on the street

If you have slotted rotors clean the grooves with file tang

Douse the calipers in brake cleaner before reinstall

Unless yout rotors are warped this should sort them

it takes the glaze off the pads so rebed the pads like new before flogging them

[simpletool]

yeah if they've been squeeling a lot and the rotors or pads a glossy you need to dust up the rotors and pads a bit. Use some wet n dry paper to take the gloss off, then rinse with brake cleaner spray.

The copper grease works well for me. Worked on both RB74 pads and Ultimates.

I've rekitted my front calipers and the seals OK from the grease use, but obviously it's going to damage them a little bit.

[Colskee]

hello everyone.

ive had the squeeky brakes problem since i bought my 33 s2 nearly a year ago and ive spent over $1000 now on various things trying to rid it. A good 80% - 90% of the noise is gone but the front left still squeels at low speeds when i push the pedel in about halfway or so.

ive been reading alot of this problem on the net with all sorts of cars and on this website and the skyline problem seems to be all the same.

i have a relative who is a genius and mechanics thats been doing it all his life and he has helped me alot on this issue.

he believes that one caliper may be doing more braking than the rest, (hense why my one thats squeeking tends to have more dust on the rim) its probabaly a common problem with the skyline and seeming that japanese engeneering is fantastic, but not perfect these problems are innevatable.

so i thoguht to myself "i waste all this time with shit and its never going to go away, could this problem be deeper such as caliper rebuild/replacement? or something to do with the abs unit or booster?

who freaking knows man but im very suspecious on this problem sometimes being further from just pads, rotors and whatever sticky shit you wanna use.

ill keep you all posted when i find out some more information cause i know what your all going through and how friggen GAY it is!!! lol

[mystery_kid]

had the problem with my car, had no shims on the front is why, i bought some project mu ones from gsl rallysport and it fixed the problem

i have had qfm a1rm pads on my r32 and now my r34 and done track days with them both and never sqealed, apart from the r34 when it didnt have shims

its not the pad, they with a heap of black stuff on the back of them ot help stop them from squealing

[nobby]

The red goo you fellers keep talking about, is it the tube or spray?.

I re-kitted front callipers, and sprayed the red stuff on the shims and back of pads, no problems.

Did the usual break-in followed by fairly hard stops no noises to report.

[Colskee]

The red goo you fellers keep talking about, is it the tube or spray?.

I re-kitted front callipers, and sprayed the red stuff on the shims and back of pads, no problems.

Did the usual break-in followed by fairly hard stops no noises to report.

you can get it in a bottle with a squeezy top therefor putting a nice thick layer on. never heard of the spray does it go on thin?

[nobby]

you can get it in a bottle with a squeezy top therefor putting a nice thick layer on. never heard of the spray does it go on thin?

DYNAGRIP, disc brake squeal free.

P/No 49662.

net weight 255gram.

guess probably enough to do 3 cars minimum.

read direction, contains stuff you don't want to breath.

Yes fairly thin, but you can build it up as thick as you like, but no need.

This product dries.

Every-thing cleaned with brake cleaner

Coated each side of shim and back of pad.

Place pad on it face and spray, pad face IS to be left clean.

If your worried about pad contamination, maybe cover with foil and tape foil to pad backing steel plate sides.

Wait for this stuff to dry before handling.

As it takes a little while before it's not sticky any more.

Not long, say 1/2 hr or so.

I did this nearly a year ago so time frame a little unsure

OEM shims "think" have a rubber type coating standard.

I simply re-coated shims as oem stuff "small amount" 10% was peeling off.

Re-built front callipers I used a wire brush in my elec drill to de-glase old discs.

Light cross hatched pattern

Std JDM GTR drilled discs

Have to say, my car didn't have a noise problem in the first place.

I reused old pads, simply re-code callipers, sprayed re-coated shims and pad backing.

Dont' like a soft peddle, so work preformed.

Genuine cal seal kit.

Rubber grease.

Dynagrip.

Wire wheel.

Brake cleaner, (plenty of it).

callipers thoroughly cleaned and blown out

hand polished pistons clean, small amount Autosol.

pistons triple cleaned with brake cleaner afterwards and clean rag and air.

New b-fluid.

cheers

[nomnomv8]

Might need to attack my brakes this week. I thought slotted rotors and new bendix ultimates would get rid of it but no luck.

Does anyone know any shim kits suitable for the 34 GTR brembos ?

[mystery_kid]

Hit up gsl in the trader section for a set project mu shims, I think I paid $65 for a front set from him

Might seem pricey but for the price the satisfaction is worth it

[Colskee]

had the problem with my car, had no shims on the front is why, i bought some project mu ones from gsl rallysport and it fixed the problem

i have had qfm a1rm pads on my r32 and now my r34 and done track days with them both and never sqealed, apart from the r34 when it didnt have shims

its not the pad, they with a heap of black stuff on the back of them ot help stop them from squealing

i made 4 shims at work out of 1mm thick sheet steal and put them in. had made quite a difference! alot less squeeling! and the little i do hear maybe just the new pads bedding in. i keep my fingers crossed because i have tried absolutely everything

[mystery_kid]

The project mu shims have a rubber coating on the side that faces the brake pistons so they bed into that and work really well

[mystery_kid]

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Edited April 2, 2012 by mystery_kid