Replacement Turbo - What To Get?

[W0rp3D]

f**k me $1350 for a tune? Let me know who that is so I know not to go there.

[75coupe]

to solve your situation Ive got to say hypergear hiflow...

but how just how perfect do you want to be is the question, budget equals hypergear hiflow...

no budget limit and anything goes... stock turbo wins for economy though

[Bsa]

i think he ment including turbo which sounds about right. honestly mate if you dont want to spend the bucks and happy with 200kw then buy a stock turbo and run 12 pound max and it should last

[GTScotT]

f**k me $1350 for a tune? Let me know who that is so I know not to go there.

Unigroup supply fit tune of a Nistune board.

Cant just tune a stock ECU now can we? LOL need to buy the tunable bit

DVS JEZ is cheaper but I dont like to quote the cheapest, that gets peoples hopes up. Unigroups price should be close to standard so wherever he is locate he should be able to get it done for around that much.

If the car was well set up to begin with I would still say budget $2500 to high flow and remap.

[SargeRX8]

I think high flow

[Super Drager]

Unigroup supply fit tune of a Nistune board.

Cant just tune a stock ECU now can we? LOL need to buy the tunable bit

DVS JEZ is cheaper but I dont like to quote the cheapest, that gets peoples hopes up. Unigroups price should be close to standard so wherever he is locate he should be able to get it done for around that much.

If the car was well set up to begin with I would still say budget $2500 to high flow and remap.

This is why i'm going to do one of those tuning classes at Unigroup and buy my own equipment, seems like it'll save a bit of coin and tuning is something i've always wanted to learn.

[W0rp3D]

Unigroup supply fit tune of a Nistune board.

Cant just tune a stock ECU now can we? LOL need to buy the tunable bit

DVS JEZ is cheaper but I dont like to quote the cheapest, that gets peoples hopes up. Unigroups price should be close to standard so wherever he is locate he should be able to get it done for around that much.

If the car was well set up to begin with I would still say budget $2500 to high flow and remap.

Oh so your including having nistune hardware as well? Does the nistune hardware make a power fc any better?

[Bill]

to solve your situation Ive got to say hypergear hiflow...

Thanks

stock turbo wins for economy though

Considering the Ks I do thats a consideration. Is there any rule of thumb on differences in fuel use when highway cruising?

i think he ment including turbo which sounds about right. honestly mate if you dont want to spend the bucks and happy with 200kw then buy a stock turbo and run 12 pound max and it should last

From some of the info posted so far I may just end up doing that.

I got about 8 years out of the old one with the boost wound up.

Unigroup supply fit tune of a Nistune board.

Cant just tune a stock ECU now can we? LOL need to buy the tunable bit

Guys, Im not running a stock board.

I have a PFC fitted and am factoring a tune no matter what I end up doing.

[Bill]

You were running 15psi through the stock turbo?

No wonder it shat itself... No more than 11-12psi should be run.

Its been that for the last 8 years or so.

And yes, hi-flowing will make it laggier, you are putting in larger wheels.

Ok thanks, had never really thought about what hi-flowing entailed, I thought it was just porting and polishing or something like that.

$350 is for second hand stock turbo.

Realistically to put a decent hi-flow, ball bearing etc, $1600 is the cheapest you'll get. You can get bush bearing ones for around $800 but their performance is not as good and for 220rwkw there is little point in spending $800, then $500+ for the tune only to gain 20rwkw and more lag.

I would not get a bush bearing one, may be me but I dont think they last as long.

Hey, is it possible to get my turbo rebuilt? If so where?

[W0rp3D]

GCG, hypergear or mtq will be able to rebuild it, if your going down that road make sure you get steel exhaust wheel (although i doubt anyone would put the shitty ceramic one back in) i would also suggest using an op6/vg30/r34 rear housing, yes it would make it laggier but it would help solve your boost drop off problem (as would a good electronic boost controller) and would a allow you to run a little more boost which would put you right on your limit, its also a direct bolt on.

Edited December 16, 2011 by W0rp3D

[W0rp3D]

and since you have an Eboost you either need to have it set up properly or replace your wastegate, it should not be dropping off boost at 4200, maybe around 5500 with the restrictive exhaust housing but 4200 is too low.

[Rolls]

Highflow turbo, ecu, injectors, afm, clutch, fuel pump.

$4k adventure if you want 240kw or 300kw, need all the same parts. Or you are just stuck with the stock turbo if you don't want to replace stuff.

Hey, is it possible to get my turbo rebuilt? If so where?

When people say get a highflow thats what htey mean, rebuild stock turbo with bigger spec wheels. Hypergear, gcg, lots of places do it. Once again you need all the parts listed above if you go a bigger turbo though.

Edited December 17, 2011 by Rolls

[Tony de Wonderful]

You were running 15psi through the stock turbo?

That takes some balls, but at least it didn't end in tears with bits of compressor wheel going through the engine.

Still I heard of people running 14 psi day in day out on the R33 GTST turbo and the R34 one is a bit stronger I think.

[Tony de Wonderful]

Sorry to semi-hijack the thread, but for me the biggest issue I have with a high flow turbo is the poverty spec journal bearing and resultant lag. I know it is cheap, but I'm thinking it might just be worth getting a decent ball bearing turbo which won't run out of puff at 6k. I mean if you are going to go to the expense of getting to the point (injectors, fuel pump, FMIC, ecu etc), may as well get a good turbo even if you stay low mount and internal gate?

Edited December 17, 2011 by Tony de Wonderful

[Rolls]

poverty spec journal bearing and resultant lag. I know it is cheap,

stop talking smack, there is negligible difference between plain bearing and bb in terms of lag and response.

[wolverine]

Sorry to semi-hijack the thread, but for me the biggest issue I have with a high flow turbo is the poverty spec journal bearing and resultant lag. I know it is cheap, but I'm thinking it might just be worth getting a decent ball bearing turbo which won't run out of puff at 6k. I mean if you are going to go to the expense of getting to the point (injectors, fuel pump, FMIC, ecu etc), may as well get a good turbo even if you stay low mount and internal gate?

The GCG hiflow is a ball bearing unit.

[hypergear]

We can make it produce more power with better response and reliability using our bush setup then any of the BB high flows. Believe or not ?

[Bill]

and since you have an Eboost you either need to have it set up properly or replace your wastegate, it should not be dropping off boost at 4200, maybe around 5500 with the restrictive exhaust housing but 4200 is too low.

I was told by a few people the stock turbo being unable to maintain the higher boost (double stock) as the revs increased is to be expected, not an issue with the wastegate or Eboost. It seemed logical to me, but I guess that was just an assumption I made that suited the facts and backedup what others said, lol.

When people say get a highflow thats what htey mean, rebuild stock turbo with bigger spec wheels. Hypergear, gcg, lots of places do it. Once again you need all the parts listed above if you go a bigger turbo though.

Thanks.

Am getting Hypergear to rebuild and highflow my turbo.

It seems to be the better option when you take my requirements into account.

Edited December 22, 2011 by Bill

[W0rp3D]

I was told by a few people the stock turbo being unable to maintain the higher boost (double stock) as the revs increased is to be expected, not an issue with the wastegate or Eboost. It seemed logical to me, but I guess that was just an assumption I made that suited the facts and backedup what others said, lol.

that is the case but it should hold boost a bit longer than that befoe it falls off, thats also why i mentioned the bigger exhaust housing.

[Tony de Wonderful]

I would not get a bush bearing one, may be me but I dont think they last as long.

My bush bearing OEM turbo has been running for 14 years.