Schooooooools Out For Summer.

[Berk]

Hey fellow New South-Welshmen, not sure if anyone else saw it in the paper, but, even though Schools statewide went for Summer holidays on Friday the 17th the Politsia will still be enforcing school zones (including those with speed cameras) until the end of this week (the 23rd?) despite there being no kiddies at school.

Just thought I might get the word out in case anyone was to come to the logical conclusion that school holidays=school zones not in force and get a nice $200-300 christmas present from the Govt

It might seem a little silly, a little cash based even, but hey, just be grateful we don't get bashed by the coppers when we get pulled over, like they do down south.

http://www.skylinesa...ictoria-police/

Edited December 18, 2011 by maxima

[GoldZilla]

Umm, from what I've heard, some schools will still be running until maybe Tuesday. State schools and private schools often run on different schedules.

[The Bogan]

Max you really have a lot of issues with obeying the law.

How about doing some research on why they continue to enforce the limits instead of posting up about how unfair the world is.

And FFS how hard is it to do the posted speed limits for a certain area, you were born with eyes were you not, how about engaging your brain and your eyes into gear before you hammer the load pedal.

[Marsss]

now there's a keyboard uppercut...

[evil_weevil]

so does this mean when the real school holidays are one we'll see more threads about turboing a GTS etc?

[zebra]

nah you mean UN-turboing a GTST lol

[MBS206]

I'd actually like to say thanks. I don't have kids, an all I knew was from work mates that their kids were on holidays this week, meaning I expected no school zones.

I think laying off Maxima about this thread would be a good idea. I even think there'd be a lot of parents whom don't know school zones are still in affect.

Next time, jump on him for warning you of double demerits...

[The Bogan]

It's just there have always been full time school zones, the signs are different to reflect this, just because its school holidays doesn't mean there isn't kids attending schools, have a look at your traffic authority web site and it explains it all there, the full time ones are marked differently, its also up to the licence holder to keep up to date with all relevant changes to the road laws, you agree to do this when you first get your licence.

From memory there are 4 different class signs for school zones, there is legislation going on at the moment to have all school zones 40kph full time to account for after school classes, meetings and other after hour meetings and remove the confusion off changing speed limits during the course of the day.

Me I cannot see a issue with it and as a side note if you are going to put speed cameras anywhere, school zones is where they should go.

[MBS206]

Mark, there may be some that are always working etc, we've got ones around Wollongong that run all day etc. But the last time I read about school zones, was that they stopped when school semester ended. As far as I was aware the semester was over.

The RTA should do more to let people know when it is a school semester or not. Put the f**king flashing lights on all school zones and it will solve this issue.

[Berk]

Lol, this mlr guy really hates me.

Just trying to do the right thing guys.

No need to bash me with a torch.

[oweban]

2 seconds in google:

http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/events/vacations.html

school is not out

[Liz]

find something better to argue about

[The Bogan]

If traveling in a 70 kph zone and you come across a school zone with the length of 1km, the added time to your trip would be 39 seconds, not many school zones that long really, most between 300 to 500 mtrs around here thus only adding 20 seconds to the trip.

To add 15 minutes to a trip you would need to pass 23 schools each having a reduced zone distance of 1klm.

Just though I would add some prospective as I was having this discussion with a friend last night who thought the 3 school zones were adding 15 minutes to his trip, we calculated the data and even did a live run, results were slightly different due to other traffic and the distance used to slow down to achieve the speed limit prior to reaching the sign.

I apologize for offending and I should have stated my case differently, to me this is common sense and following road law, I admit that I sit a road law test at least once a year and am extremely anal about road safety.

[MBS206]

Mark, I agree with you, I have zero issues with sticking to school zones, but due to the fact I rarely go through them, I don't go looking up info on what day it starts and stops nor do I have it memorized. As you'd know, it's illegal for me to use my phone to google school semesters while driving...

What I'd like is te RTA to kindly put flashing lights on all school zones so everyone is alerted when they do get to them if it is active or not.

I think you'll also find this threa was made like most people make as a "hey guys, it's double demerits this weekend, be extra vigilant"

It's just nice to know, but this info is even better to know IMO.

[God_speed]

Agree that *all* school zones should have flashing lights. I'd say a fair proportion of people that have sped through school zones did so unknowingly because there weren't flashing lights or the sign was obstructed by a tree or placed in close proximity to about 5 other surrounding (unrelated) signs or advertising. Regardless of how careless that person might have been, it's surely beyond question that when the flashing lights are in place the level of unintentional speeding through school zones is minimised.

One of the main reasons I look up school terms is that we have limited parking at work and there's a "Bus zone 8am-9am on School Days" sign that applies to a few free parking spots and you need to know when those "school days" are.

[The Bogan]

They have been slowly rolling out flashing lights for a few years now, moneys been tight with all the mismanagement and waste though which has held up proceedings.

We got our flashing lights by constantly hassling the council with petitions at bringing it up at the local meetings.

If we can get the most corrupt local council (Liverpool) to get there act into gear and spend some money on safety there is hope for us all.

[oweban]

They have been slowly rolling out flashing lights for a few years now, moneys been tight with all the mismanagement and waste though which has held up proceedings.

We got our flashing lights by constantly hassling the council with petitions at bringing it up at the local meetings.

If we can get the most corrupt local council (Liverpool) to get there act into gear and spend some money on safety there is hope for us all.

Probably the last school in Wollongong to get the flashing lights was one of the richest; TIGS. Coincidentally, this school also had a speed camera going past it, on a hill.

[Marsss]

Personally, I'm a bit disappointed at the fact that this thread is not an "Alice Cooper Music appreciation" one

[Sinista32]

Flashing lights is good to alert drivers and get their focus back on the road and driving.

BUT I'm dissapointed that 'we'

1. Fail to teach children road safety,

2. Fail to teach young children physics,

3. Dumb the population and our children down by reducing speed limits to deal with dumb drivers, neglectful parents of young kids and

4. Why do 'we' allow our children that are not developed enough to know better, to walk accross roads without a parent/gaurdian ?

Driving with my girl one day when a large garbage truck went through an intersection. - I braked hard, missed the collision and went verbally ballistic having right of way -

(as do pedestrians on the road apparently). My girl just looked at me and said "you cant win an argument with a garbage truck when your in a car".

When your on foot you will not win an argument with a car. SIMPLE

C'mon folks - Self duty of care for you and your kids.

60, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10. Why dont we just change orange falshing lights to red and be done with it. 0kmhs per hour!

[ianjb]

Lol, this mlr guy really hates me.

Some people just HAVE to ride someone. every one gets 1, looks like you've found your's

If we can get the most corrupt local council (Liverpool) to get there act into gear and spend some money on safety there is hope for us all.

You had valid arguments until you said this. Making accusations of corruption is not just wrong, it is illegal and slander.

Flashing lights is good to alert drivers and get their focus back on the road and driving.

BUT I'm dissapointed that 'we'

1. Fail to teach children road safety,

2. Fail to teach young children physics,

3. Dumb the population and our children down by reducing speed limits to deal with dumb drivers, neglectful parents of young kids and

4. Why do 'we' allow our children that are not developed enough to know better, to walk accross roads without a parent/gaurdian ?

Driving with my girl one day when a large garbage truck went through an intersection. - I braked hard, missed the collision and went verbally ballistic having right of way -

(as do pedestrians on the road apparently). My girl just looked at me and said "you cant win an argument with a garbage truck when your in a car".

When your on foot you will not win an argument with a car. SIMPLE

C'mon folks - Self duty of care for you and your kids.

60, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10. Why dont we just change orange falshing lights to red and be done with it. 0kmhs per hour!

All but your last line i agree 1000000%. We shouldn't be focusing on the 1% of retarded drivers, we should be educating our kids to look out for these fools.

"you cant win an argument with a garbage truck when your in a car".

BTW, This remark makes your 'girl' awesome!

Edited December 19, 2011 by ianjb