xm4tr1x Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Hey guys not sure which turbo will suit price/power/stealth im after a turbo which is undetectable by cops, has more power than stock and isnt too expensive and has minimal turbo lag. ive been looking at this hyergear g1 400hp rated turbo, its a direct bolt on for rb25 and its $1250 i have a jjr split pipe coming too so i wanna hit it all in one go. rpm range for boost is 1500-3600 rated 20psi link : http://digi-hardware.com/atr43.html can i have this turbo on running 8psi like what my current turbo is running now and should it be fine? or do i need pfc with it? current mods : - 3.5 cat back - return flow FMIC - HD clutch - BMC panel filter the final power figure im aiming for eventually is whatever the injectors can throw out safely so 220? with 80% or 90% duty? not a gun on this part. Thankyou in advance! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsa Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 why upgrade turbo and not get a tune its pointless really. also iv never fitted a turbo that just bolts up becides a stock one Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6170542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Drager Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mate go for a Highflow, not worth putting on an ATR43 for 220rwkw. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6170551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Absolutely agree with the above. Hypergear's hiflow of your existing turbo will be the closest thing to your stealth requirement and cost less than the ATR43. But don't upgrade your turbo if you're not going to upgrade everything else. At minimum you want Nistune, fuel pump, intercooler and 14 psi, + turbo upgrade or you are wasting your time. And that's just to take you to the limits of your stock injectors. Time for you to read a few sticky threads I think. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6170571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xm4tr1x Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Sorry forgot to mention the main reason for this post, my turbo is making loud noise like a sander on a piece of perpex. it gets louder and more noticeable as it pass 2-3 mins of consistent WOT. under normal driving conditions there no unusual audible sound. thanks guys. so best option is to get my turbo high flowed? what will the power rating be with bigger wheels on it? turbo lag etc? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6170797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinP Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 2 to 3 minutes of consistent WOT... Where are you driving that thing, across seven airport runways in a row?! Sorry forgot to mention the main reason for this post, my turbo is making loud noise like a sander on a piece of perpex. it gets louder and more noticeable as it pass 2-3 mins of consistent WOT. under normal driving conditions there no unusual audible sound. thanks guys. so best option is to get my turbo high flowed? what will the power rating be with bigger wheels on it? turbo lag etc? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6170823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The standard hypergear highflow is $960 from memory, it should do up to 240kw It will be the closest thing to a bolt on and 99%% undetectable (close as ull get) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6170895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Or you could look for a exhaust manifold/turbo leak before spending money on replacing parts that are probably not broken. x2 on where you hold WOT for 2-3minutes??? Are you a test driver for Bugatti? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6170941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 im on wot for weeks at a time, lets let that one go shall we... hes the stig, leave it be Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6171287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsa Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Sorry forgot to mention the main reason for this post, my turbo is making loud noise like a sander on a piece of perpex. it gets louder and more noticeable as it pass 2-3 mins of consistent WOT. Where is this place I want a go Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6171296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS8_Gohan Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 i had this high pitched noise on my old GTT, thought it was poss the turbo but in the end it was the FMIC which had a slight leak around one of the silicone joiners. So i just pulled it all apart and put it all back together making 200% sure all was nice and snug, and got some good clamps and ditched the ones it came with. Norma ones i think? i had a highflow hypergear on my GTT as well, nice bit of kit. Stealth, punchy and plenty of fun in a rwd Skyline. 250rwkw ish on 98. 280'ish on E85. But like the others, no point getting the turbo, dump etc without getting something to tune it. As you have a R33, you're better off getting a power fc i reckon. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6171308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xm4tr1x Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 no doubt ill be gettin a pfc just wondering if i should rebuild my one or be looking at something else. whats the differences between a rebuilt highflowed r33 turbo compared to a hypergear g1 turbo in regards to power/response/ boost/cost etc. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6171319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Not drastically different. Why don't you go look at the Hypergear site yourself and check out the graphs? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6171383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony de Wonderful Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 2 to 3 minutes of consistent WOT... Where are you driving that thing, across seven airport runways in a row?! He was actually driving an R32 with an RB20 in 3rd gear and at 3,000 RPM. It was slightly uphill. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6171757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad's Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Like others have said you will need to upgrade more if you are changing the turbo, seems a waste to upgrade the turbo and only get 1/10th of the upgrade it can offer. This is what id be doing Fuel pump Some sort of injectors if not an adjustable reg 3 inch dump Aftermarket computer. Weather it be a nistune or power fc Maybe a EBC Z32 afm Turbo Tune But doing all of that if a cop sees something he does't like he will defect you, so really if you went for a garrett a trubo is going to be the least of your worries as he will probally get you for to low etc. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6171910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinP Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 He was actually driving an R32 with an RB20 in 3rd gear and at 3,000 RPM. It was slightly uphill. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6171936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xm4tr1x Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 sweet guys thanx for all ur help. Im gonna just drive it around like a granny till i save up for a hypergear highflow, pfc, injectors, fuel pump, 3" turbo back, ebc, z32 afm or map sensor. and a sexy tune! sex! thanks again guys. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6172998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh_TypeX Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Or you could change the $20 turbo to dump pipe gasket that is most likely the issue while you save for those parts... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6173229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xm4tr1x Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 well i got a JJR split 3" dump coming in the nxt week so ill see if that fixes the prob. Cheers. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6173492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtsttrk Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 -split dump -venom hi-flow cat Get those done first. What sort of CAI are you running? If you haven't already upgraded that yet do that before you go altering the turbo. Even if it is just a good panel filter in the stock box. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386913-upgrade-turbo-but-not-too-crazy/#findComment-6173911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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