R33 Swaybars / Whiteline Any Good?

[Torques]

Yes,

I did these things before but not on a Skyline. (on MacPherson struts)

You start on one small thing, and in the end you rip the whole car apart.

With the Skyline's suspension matters seem to be a bit less painful though.

Lol, I see you've done this before...

Once you have the Whiteline bars, this is always something you can add at a later date.

Edited January 16, 2012 by Torques

[Torques]

Yes, I did this before ... alas not on a Skyline.

It's mostly the same story, you start a small thing and 'while at it' you start other sub-projects since it all is conveniently taken apart anyhow

Someone told me that the adjustable bars may be problematic due to the fact that the angle to the link may become extreme.

Is this an issue?

Thaaanks!

Lol, I see you've done this before...

Once you have the Whiteline bars, this is always something you can add at a later date.

[Daleo]

Yes, I did this before ... alas not on a Skyline.

It's mostly the same story, you start a small thing and 'while at it' you start other sub-projects since it all is conveniently taken apart anyhow

Someone told me that the adjustable bars may be problematic due to the fact that the angle to the link may become extreme.

Is this an issue?

Thaaanks!

Yep, I hear you there...

The Whiteline bars go through a lot of initial testing; and the parts you'd be looking to fit have been around for a while now, so that's a hell of a lot of cars doing "in the field" testing.

If there were any issues; I can assure you that Whiteline would've long ago spotted and corrected any potential problems.

I haven't personally fitted a set of Adjustable bars to an R33; but I have on an R34, which shares the same suspension architecture. I had no issues with alignment or fitting.

Bearing in mind the distance between the two adjustment holes on a BNR11XZ or BNR11XXZ is only 20-30mm; and the point where the OEM link would sits, is right between the two; misalignment is negligble.

With regard to the BNF24Z; it has 4 adjustment holes.

The rear two, fall directly below the OEM link position (with the same centreing and 20-30mm spacing as the rear). The front two adjustment hole are accessed by flipping the link around to face the front; so the link alignment is retained. This is why there is a larger gap between the two centre adjustment hole in the pic below.

Hopefully this answers your questions.

[Torques]

Hello there,

Thanks for the explanation and pictures, much appreciated.

So compared to the OEM part the holes are either more 'left' or 'right' ?

Is this the same with the non adjustable bar?

[GTSBoy]

No, the holes are more forward or backward. The bar is about the same total width as the stocker, so the blades aren't left or right of the stocker. The end arms with the holes in them are aligned longitudinally with the car.

[copycutter]

Daleo, can I ask if these whiteline swaybars have much effect on the way the car rides over normal bumps and undulations when driving straight? Or does a mod like this only really get noticed when cornering hard? What I mean is, would stiffer swaybars make a car more rough riding when just pootling around town or would you only really notice when fanging the car in the mountains?

[Daleo]

Daleo, can I ask if these whiteline swaybars have much effect on the way the car rides over normal bumps and undulations when driving straight? Or does a mod like this only really get noticed when cornering hard? What I mean is, would stiffer swaybars make a car more rough riding when just pootling around town or would you only really notice when fanging the car in the mountains?

They do make a difference you can feel; but I wouldn't say it is a negative change.

Over single wheel bumps (potholes driveways) you do notice; because you are effectively increasing the spring rate of that wheel. This generally manifests as additional resistance to bottoming out and slightly firmer feeling suspension.

Over two wheel bumps (undulations and speed humps) you won't notice them at all; because the bar is unloaded, and just effectively floating.

Bars generally don't make the car ride rougher around town; in fact after adding heavier bars to my car, I was able to significantly soften the damping of my coilovers. This is because I didn't need to use the damping to cover up the sloppy response on turn in. I've had similar feedback from other people who've fitted bars.

So the end result in my case; was a more supple compliant car, that was much more able to follow the contours of a corner, rather than just crashing over them. Smoother, quieter, and above all shitloads quicker and composed in corners.

That's a win-win in my book.

[Addicted2BoostR34]

Yep, I hear you there...

The Whiteline bars go through a lot of initial testing; and the parts you'd be looking to fit have been around for a while now, so that's a hell of a lot of cars doing "in the field" testing.

If there were any issues; I can assure you that Whiteline would've long ago spotted and corrected any potential problems.

I haven't personally fitted a set of Adjustable bars to an R33; but I have on an R34, which shares the same suspension architecture. I had no issues with alignment or fitting.

Bearing in mind the distance between the two adjustment holes on a BNR11XZ or BNR11XXZ is only 20-30mm; and the point where the OEM link would sits, is right between the two; misalignment is negligble.

With regard to the BNF24Z; it has 4 adjustment holes.

The rear two, fall directly below the OEM link position (with the same centreing and 20-30mm spacing as the rear). The front two adjustment hole are accessed by flipping the link around to face the front; so the link alignment is retained. This is why there is a larger gap between the two centre adjustment hole in the pic below.

Hopefully this answers your questions.

hey just haveing a read i have a R34 i installed both these sway bars today went in peace of cake best bang for ur buck thing to do i also brought them of this guy with no problems i can upload some pics of them in if it helps you decide

rear is piss eazy just drop ur exhaust down and it simple swap front i needed to drop the caster arms down to get to a bolt apart from that its ezy

[Daleo]

hey just haveing a read i have a R34 i installed both these sway bars today went in peace of cake best bang for ur buck thing to do i also brought them of this guy with no problems i can upload some pics of them in if it helps you decide

rear is piss eazy just drop ur exhaust down and it simple swap front i needed to drop the caster arms down to get to a bolt apart from that its ezy

Hey Cody, Glad everything went well mate. Thanks for the feedback mate; really appreciate the kind words.

Having to remove the caster rods is the only frustrating part of the job really; but no other way to get at that saddle bolt.

Cheers, Dale.

[copycutter]

Thanks Daleo, the info was really descriptive & helpful. I'll let you know when I'm ready to look at getting a set.

[Daleo]

Thanks Daleo, the info was really descriptive & helpful. I'll let you know when I'm ready to look at getting a set.

No problem Nick; look forward to hearing from you.

[Torques]

Could someone comment how the Whitlines compare to a pair of 2nd hand GTR-Swaybars?

(Leaving the adjustment benefit aside)

[GTSBoy]

Yeah. The Whiteline front bar fits a GTSt(T) and the GTR one doesn't.

[Torques]

Really?

A mate of mine has the GTR ones ...

Will double check with him.

Thanks

[GTSBoy]

He might have a rear one. Have a look at catalogues. You will see different listings for the front of RWD and AWD Skylines.

[Tonks]

Can confirm that rear 32 GTR sway bar will fit 32 gtst, fronts how ever will not.

I found this out after dropping castors arms and trying to fit gtr bar and there is no way said bar will fit.