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Hey guys,

Those you who know me know I'm a pasty pale geek who gets most of his tan from his computer monitor. However this Summer I'm looking to get some colour (I'm not trying to change ethinicity).

My question is, how?

I do not want to burn myself to a crisp, its unhealthy and painful. So should I just head out in the sun topless for 30min per day, or am I better off going out with sunscreen for several hours?

How effective is sunscreen at blocking a tan?

Am I better going out at 12-2pm, or later in the afternoon when the sun is less harsh?

Thanks guys.

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Healthiest way to tan is with fake.

Or be born with dark skin.

Realistically though, just play in the sun all day with sunscreen on...you will still tan a little but won't burn. Or, yes, I've stood in my back yard before, topless, for around 20 minutes each day and this very slowly gives you colour - thus driving arm occurs over time even though your arm doesn't get spontaneously burnt and feel painful.

I'm similar to you, in that I'm white as fark...

But I've picked up some reasonable colour arms and shoulders.

3-4 days over the past 3 weeks been out in the sun for ~90mins with SPF30+ on.

Making sure I don't just stay 'back' to the sun kinda thing. But just rotate

Also was in the water at the time (aspendale beach).

End of the day its not a great tan but I ain't milk white now :)

And fark cancer, everything gives you cancer. Hell I could be hit by a bus in 6 months time.

I don't deliberately roast myself, so if it happens I get cancer so be it.

You guys should try a living in northern Japan where you put away the shorts and t-shirts around mid ~ late Oct and they dont come out of mothballs until June.

Then your covered with snow from late Nov to May.

You guys have never seen white !!

I felt like a vampire hiding from the sun over Xmas and New Year period here in Oz.

And fark cancer, everything gives you cancer. Hell I could be hit by a bus in 6 months time.

I don't deliberately roast myself, so if it happens I get cancer so be it.

yeah but if you get hit by a bus it's good bye Ash.

if you get cancer, you will be strung along on my tax money, barely staying alive while feeling and looking like death for who knows how long.

the whole skin cancer thing has been blown way out of proportion... sunscreen stops your skin from producing vitamin D so most people are deficient (and its a really good vitamin, look it up)... especially women who use moisturizer every day that has 15+ in it

don't go getting burnt but make sure you get at least 15mins here and there of sun without sunscreen... I always go out without it then put it on after 15min... that's between 11am and 4pm though... if its after 4pm I don't usually bother (have a look at the UV charts)

I'm usually really pale but have managed to get a nice tan this summer without ever getting burnt

my parents never had sunscreen... they used to go out and get badly burnt repeatedly until their skin adapted... now my old man gets his skin checked regularly and has had lots of suspicious moles removed, so there is a happy medium between that and those sickly pale looking kids running around with 500 layers on at the beach and those stupid farking tents people always set up right in front of me!

and I'll leave you with this... there is new research to suggest some sunscreen ingredients might be cancerous

Do you think that the whole concept of desiring a tan is a cultural-fashion thing?

Isn't it the exact opposite in places like Japan where fair skin is the desired norm?

Sorry about going onto a tangent > but just analysing motive....

Do you think that the whole concept of desiring a tan is a cultural-fashion thing?

Isn't it the exact opposite in places like Japan where fair skin is the desired norm?

Sorry about going onto a tangent > but just analysing motive....

This is definitely the norm in the older generation but the Japanese would have to be some of the worst offenders I have seen for sunburn.

Hit any popular beach in Japan through summer and the younger generation will be out in droves baking away.

Japanese so called 50+ is useless, just like their fly spray.

I've seen Japanese surfers in Bali and other parts on Indonesia looking like they leprosy with skin peeling off from severe sunburn and yet they'll be out there frying in the sun unprotected again getting burn upon burn because its cool to to look sun tanned and have the surfer girl/boy look.

Absolutely no idea whatsoever when it comes to basic sun protection. At least in oz we are taught from a child to slip,slop slap.

Tell that to a Japanese at the beach and they'll think its some sort of oishi ice cream.

Its the Korean women who wont go near the sun.

Dear oh dear...

That sounds like the group of Slavs that came along and quit smoking last year. I asked a couple of men, "Just like us Asians that prolifically smoke, why do so many Slavs smoke?" They all said, "You're not a man unless you smoke!"

So the corollary for the Korean man is, "You're not a man unless you tan!" ??

Healthiest way to tan is with fake.

Or be born with dark skin.

Realistically though, just play in the sun all day with sunscreen on...you will still tan a little but won't burn. Or, yes, I've stood in my back yard before, topless, for around 20 minutes each day and this very slowly gives you colour - thus driving arm occurs over time even though your arm doesn't get spontaneously burnt and feel painful.

singlet tan at the nats. that is all :thumbsup:

In 2002 melanomas and other skin cancers caused 0.12% of deaths in the US. That's number 75 down the most-common-way-to-die list.

Check your family history and your skin with a GP and calculate the risk then decide yourself whether it's worth it :)

Definitely tan with sunscreen on, I always use 30SPF and am well brown. There's nothing cool about being a crab person who turns into a Holstein cow.

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