R34 Gtr Owners, What Adjustable Arms Are You Using?

[SS8_Gohan]

looking to get some adjustable arms for the R, prob just camber but may considering other things like caster as well etc

last time i had an alignment done, they said it was around -2.5 all around, which they said is about where they would want it anyway but i'm thinking of reducing that a bit for street duties and to save the tyres a bit, then change for track days (don't do many, so alignment costs are too bad)

i think the car has some R33 GTR sus parts, LCA from memory, but can't remember exactly. Need to check the specs list again

[R31Nismoid]

Cusco arms

Racepace modify them if you wanna get more serious with adjustments

Or you can have the factory ones modified as well but not as much freedom as Cusco ones.

Depends how much/what you want i guess.

[boostn0199]

Driftworks ones are great quality and much cheaper than jap branded ones cant fault mine.

[Hank Scorpio]

Don't own a GT-R but from fitting and aligning experience by Kazama, Cusco or Ikeya Formula.

[SS8_Gohan]

ok. bringing this back to make a decision on which arms to get. Once i've sussed this out, i think i might get some bolton spacers to get the stance bang on - 10.5 +15 just don't cut it on a 34 R

and do i only need to do 'upper' arms front and rear? i wouldn't want to be changing camber from a lower arm? (if you can even do that...)

Ok, so options seem to be...

Driftworks:

Front (~$250)- http://www.driftworks.com/shop/r33-and-r34-nissan-skyline-front-upper-camber-arms.html

Rear (~$170)- http://www.driftworks.com/shop/driftworks-camber-arms-s14-s15-r33.html

not really feeling the orange but i've heard good things over at gtr.co.uk as well - they do a full R34 GTR kit as well for $700 odd.

Hardrace:

For some reason, i don't think they do front arms?? can't seem to find any for a 34

Rear ($175) - http://www.hard-race.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&path=25_32&product_id=217

SRI (found these when looking through the Just Jap site)

Front ($220) - http://justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=17665&cat=396&page=2

Rear ($149) - http://justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=16598&cat=396&page=3

Ikeya Formula:

Front (~438) - http://www.nengun.com/ikeya-formula/front-upper-link

Rear (~$390) - http://www.rhdjapan.com/ikeya-formula-rear-camber-adjuster-upper-arm-set-nissan-26495

why does the Nengun rear upper arm pic look different? http://www.nengun.com/ikeya-formula/rear-upper-arms

Kazama AUTO:

Rear (~420) - http://www.rhdjapan.com/kazama-auto-rear-upper-arm-nissan-58403

Can't find link for front

Cusco:

Front ($314) - http://www.nengun.com/cusco/adjustable-front-upper-arms

Rear ($376) - http://www.nengun.com/cusco/adjustable-rear-upper-arms

So as per normal, the Jap stuff is a lot more $$. I take it i want to be getting pillow ball arms?

Should i just grab something local (Hardrace etc) or fork out for the Jap stuff? Is there actually any difference between the Jap parts and the cheaper "aussie" stuff?

[SS8_Gohan]

found another jap brand, KTS - looks like quality but price is $$ - $485 for upper rear arms! http://www.uniqueautosports.com/pricelists/pricelist_kts.htm

[Hank Scorpio]

Yes you want pillowball items.

And you drive an R34 GT-R, YES you want to fork out for the Jap stuff

[GTSBoy]

As usual, my 2c is that pillowball arms are defectable. The few arms that are available with rubber bushes won't maintain geometry as well, but will be better than original bushes (they're harder rubber). Just depends on what's important to you. I'd prefer not to have a big issue if there was a crash/accident and the insurance co got pissy. Suspension arms are the sort of thing that is easy to point a finger at and blame.

[zebra]

not to mention they flog out rather quickly

[SS8_Gohan]

ahhh... interesting... this i did not know....

i'm not particularly fussed about legalities and i don't do many km's, so hopefully wear and tear won't be so much of an issue. Why exactly are they supposedly more dangerous than rubber bushes?

there a difference between rose-jointed and pillowball? looks like i've got a bit of both going on...

BCNR33 Front Lower Control Arms

MIDORI Development Pillow ball tension rods (castor rods – rose jointed)

NISMO reinforced Upper link/Upper Control Arm Bushes

MIDORI development Rear Pillow Ball Upper Links bush replacement (rose

joint bushes in upper control arms)

MIDORI Lower Arm Pillow ball bush replacement

MIDORI rear sub-frame collars

NISMO upgraded rear sub-frame bushes

[GTSBoy]

Rose joints & pillowballs same same.

It is because they wear rapidly that they are not considered to be suitable for road use.

[Hank Scorpio]

But in saying that you own a GT-R and not a Camry

You bought a performance car, put good quality Japanese items on it.

[boostn0199]

ok. bringing this back to make a decision on which arms to get. Once i've sussed this out, i think i might get some bolton spacers to get the stance bang on - 10.5 +15 just don't cut it on a 34 R

and do i only need to do 'upper' arms front and rear? i wouldn't want to be changing camber from a lower arm? (if you can even do that...)

Ok, so options seem to be...

Driftworks:

Front (~$250)- http://www.driftworks.com/shop/r33-and-r34-nissan-skyline-front-upper-camber-arms.html

Rear (~$170)- http://www.driftworks.com/shop/driftworks-camber-arms-s14-s15-r33.html

not really feeling the orange but i've heard good things over at gtr.co.uk as well - they do a full R34 GTR kit as well for $700 odd.

Hardrace:

For some reason, i don't think they do front arms?? can't seem to find any for a 34

Rear ($175) - http://www.hard-race.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&path=25_32&product_id=217

SRI (found these when looking through the Just Jap site)

Front ($220) - http://justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=17665&cat=396&page=2

Rear ($149) - http://justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=16598&cat=396&page=3

Ikeya Formula:

Front (~438) - http://www.nengun.com/ikeya-formula/front-upper-link

Rear (~$390) - http://www.rhdjapan.com/ikeya-formula-rear-camber-adjuster-upper-arm-set-nissan-26495

why does the Nengun rear upper arm pic look different? http://www.nengun.com/ikeya-formula/rear-upper-arms

Kazama AUTO:

Rear (~420) - http://www.rhdjapan.com/kazama-auto-rear-upper-arm-nissan-58403

Can't find link for front

Cusco:

Front ($314) - http://www.nengun.com/cusco/adjustable-front-upper-arms

Rear ($376) - http://www.nengun.com/cusco/adjustable-rear-upper-arms

So as per normal, the Jap stuff is a lot more $$. I take it i want to be getting pillow ball arms?

Should i just grab something local (Hardrace etc) or fork out for the Jap stuff? Is there actually any difference between the Jap parts and the cheaper "aussie" stuff?

I have the complete driftworks arm set in my drift car snd im happy with the items been in for about 18months now.

Slso yes you only need the upper arms, the adj lca are for adding more track which can also be used if you dont want to use spacers.

[XKLABA]

I put the cusco ones on the front of my 34, I brought them cause they are blue like the car, no I'm not kidding

easy to fit and appear to be good quality and with a small mod they have heaps of preset adjustments

only thing I think is they are not so good if you want to adjust the castor though as the are a fixed 1 piece arm with a bolt holding it to hub assembly not a ball joint

[SS8_Gohan]

i am leaning in the Cusco direction. 1) seem to be the cheapest of the Jap stuff and... 2) like you said, there seems to be a modification option with them that Ash mentioned as well, and given that my mechanical work is done by Racepace, i've got someone who's done it before...

considering all the other suspension work done on the car... i wonder why Midori didn't put in adjustable upper arms for camber changes? it's almost if they did it all, found camber to be 'x' and said, yep, that's fine, no need for adjustments. But -2.5 all around is a bit much for a predominantly street driven car i would have thought...

[R31Nismoid]

Yeah Racepace mod the Cusco ones for the circuit cars, but then depends if it's "really" needed. I did ok with stock modified ones as it wasn't too aggressive and even then still managed to wear tyres (should've rotated more often).

Comes back to what you are doing with the car mate. If you are going to live on the circuit then yeah go Cusco ones and get them modded etc. If not I'd honestly recommend to save the cash and stick with modified stock ones based on my experiences.

I'm sure extra geometry would've helped when on the track, but really another 1-2 years of experience would've offered much more benefit hence i stuck with stocker/mod

[SS8_Gohan]

in terms of changing camber settings though, Racepace stock-mod vs Cusco - isn't it easier to change the Cusco? (not knowing exactly what is involved in the Racepace mod)

[R31Nismoid]

Well yeah Racepace is set and forget as it's off the stocker. Can't see a need to change it constantly for a streeter anyway

[SS8_Gohan]

hmmm... set and forget...

i can't imagine the Racepace mod is that cheap though?

i might just go adjustable to cover all bases

[Piggaz]

not to mention they flog out rather quickly

Meh. ALL my Ikeya arms are pillow balls and some have been in there for almost 4 years. They're fine.

People make out like they flog out in 100 km's. As for noise.... Can't hear nothing!