A 9 sec car... is it really one

[hawks]

if i had a car that ran 9 sec 1/4 mile, i wouldn't give a flying fcuk how quick it was on the street !! who cares ?

drag racing is from 0 to 400m, not from a green light to the end of the track, and a car that runs 9's on the track pulls around 220 to 240 km/h !!!! who the fcuk would do that on the street ?

[Bax]

Exactly.. I'll race you to 60..

Most little buzz boxes with their sweet ratio's would beat us to that anyway.

[51jay]

if i had a car that ran 9 sec 1/4 mile, i wouldn't give a flying fcuk how quick it was on the street !! who cares ?

drag racing is from 0 to 400m, not from a green light to the end of the track, and a car that runs 9's on the track pulls around 220 to 240 km/h !!!! who the fcuk would do that on the street ?

"Drag Racing" is who gets to the 1/4 mile first....end of story

How fast you can do 1/4 mile is a different story.Munro has covered it pretty well

[2rismo]

I've decided to see how the other side of drag racing lives and I'm entering my first bracket meet this Saturday at WSID. Lucky I don't have a 9 second car!!

Let's see what there is to this reaction time business :-)

Adrian

[2rismo]

"Drag Racing" is who gets to the 1/4 mile first....end of story

How fast you can do 1/4 mile is a different story.Munro has covered it pretty well

Semantics.

Adrian

[predator]

its whoever gets to the end first after the light drops..

what do you mean by "spooling up?" if you mean spooling up the turbo until the lights go green isn't that irrelevent as its your definitely not sitting there at idle *until* the green xmas tree light goes on in any car.

do you mean from idle revs or something?

:confused:

In any situation, whether at the strip or "elsewhere" you generally know you are about to be dragging and prepare things. Even if you're on a rolling start, your turbo would probably be "spooled up" anyhow.. so i can't see the situation where suddenly you both have to start at "idle" speed.

[LaL]

Ninja you mstne understand , when your at the drags you see turbo cars for examples VL's etc etc after the green light they sit at the lights getting some boost spooling up there turbo with antilag then launching on the perfect boost for launch on that car...id rather a car that can just go there and run a 9 like a GT-R and not sit on the lights for 6 years.... then take off.

[predator]

Don't they do that before green? Isn't the GT-R also revving to a certain point before letting go??

If you are talking about automatic launch control that is a different issue.

[Guest INASNT]

They sit on the line coz they are auto with a big stall converter and trans brake, hence they need to build load till the stall speed

[predator]

launch assistance is another can of worms I think

If Leewah can show what his car is capable of with stock interior (is he still running the full interior?) and can drive to the track and do a 9 (even if it is a high 9) i think a new record will be set, at least in my eyes anyhow.

[2rismo]

A half a second is obviously a lot longer amount of time than you realise.

Isn't he still half a second away from the 9?

Oh, and don't start quoting power figures at me... They mean nothing without timeslips

Adrian

[Benno]

Competition drag racing involves more than just timing from crossing the beams at the start, to getting to the finish line. Consistancy, reaction time etc are all just as important as ET. Especially in dial your own racing. Where RT and consistancy is pretty much everything.

Getting a bit of topic.............

[predator]

A half a second is obviously a lot longer amount of time than you realise.

Isn't he still half a second away from the 9?

Oh, and don't start quoting power figures at me... They mean nothing without timeslips  

Adrian

When he got 10.47 or whatever it was, this was before the engine was rebuilt, and the happy gas added - and i think around 200rwkw less, and nearly 10 months ago now. So it should be capable of something a reasonable amount better. Im not sure of the exact configuration at the moment, or whether he even has plans to drag race it before sale. But yeah, hope he does But no, the power figure may not be a true indicator either.

I'm aware of the all the dimishing returns for gains, etc, etc when getting lower and lower into the 11 and 10sec bracket. Guess the NOS that makes it a little easier, but its either that or methanol by about that point.

[BU5TER]

Maybe in a position like this it would be better to run the time then claim the car has ran that time, as doing it and talking about it are 2 big different things, with the new power comes new problems ie gearbox and traction etc etc so just because someone has XXX more power then when they ran xxx doesn't automaticaly mean they will be that much quicker straight away

Brett

[2rismo]

x2

Adrian

[live_1991]

i think r/t should count

[NXTIME]

Looks like of the guys (and girls?) around here would have only gone to a street meet or test and tune, and therefore are complaining about the cars spooling after the green light. However, as has been pointed out by one or two knowledgable people, there is a huge difference between an official drag meet and a street meet/test and tune.

The whole idea of a test and tune is just that - to test out different techniques, configurations and settings on a car. But when it comes to an offical drag event, then anyone who sits on the line still spooling after the green goes will invariably be the loser. I don't think anyone will argue on the contrary. As long as it covers the standing 1320ft between 9.000 and 9.999 seconds, then I don't see how anyone could deny a car's 9 second ET as being a 9 second ET. It is still a 9 second car at the track. Forget about the street.

As for reaction times, they actually do count. First past the line in heads up racing wins. Reaction time also affects bracket racing with reaction time affecting the final result.

[UnKoWn]

Sure te VL's that sit there are spooling are 9sec cars, if there at a regular test & tune then they can afford to sit at the line as long as they like to get it to the required boost level there after to get the ultimate time.

But when it comes to proper real world competition drag racing under ANDRA regs then they would surely run on a pro tree.

For those that dont know what a pro tree is well thats where the VL lets say gets the a handicap start and gets the green light 1st while the lets say GTR has to wait a couple of secs before he would get the green so the VL would have its green light and would be spooling while the GTR is still waiting to go.

So in fact if that was the case and 1 of these 9sec vl's were racing something like leewahs GTR for instance on a pro tree then the handicap the VL would get would have it to its desired boost level for take off by the time the GTR owner gets the green so they would basically be takin off around the same time.

You have to remember all these 9sec VL's run very large non roller bearing turbo's with large exhaust housings so once they start catching onto the roller bearing turbo train then i think alot of these prolonged spooling times will be alot less if not non existent.

[2rismo]

all these 9sec VL's run very large non roller bearing turbo's

Rubbish.

Adrian

[BU5TER]

Bobbo