So Will Sau Folk Still Refuse To Watch V8 Supercars

[Risking]

Actually the worst thing about Nissan coming back to local tin top racing is having to read a whole new wave of muppet posts about how the GTR was banned

And the other wave of super mupets that actually think the GTR is the best race car ever to grace the earth when in reality they are a terrible platform to start with compared to other vehicles available!

Faster in corners comments are just made by people with blind folds on.

Over weight, front heavy, dated technology, terrible geometry, expensive to run blah blah.

We are all enthusiasts but the fan boys who have never actually owned a real race spec GTR shit me to tears.

The deal with Kelly racing was not put together overnight. It was well known that there was discussions taking place.

One team ive had some dealings with recently buying parts from will also be following KR's lead and taking on a new manufacturer come the COFT too.

[mad082]

Actually the worst thing about Nissan coming back to local tin top racing is having to read a whole new wave of muppet posts about how the GTR was banned

this made me LOL.... hard

F1's only control parts are the tyres and the plank under the floor??? I wouldn't call that "alot of control tech". There is a massive difference to having design limitations or a framework to work within and having 'control' parts.

yeah i worded it poorly.

The AussieRacingCars has the best "racing" by a country mile. Its like watching a 4 wheeled version of the 125cc's!! Constantly 4 wide and lead changes every lap!

more like 4 wheeled motoGP (since they run a 1.2L motor)

Exciting racing has to be the V8Brute utes.

Find a gap that's 90% the width of your car and use it to overtake...

Come out the otherside to find your car is 10% narrower...

i think you mean a gap that's 10% the width of the car and then finding they are missing 90% of their car

And the other wave of super mupets that actually think the GTR is the best race car ever to grace the earth when in reality they are a terrible platform to start with compared to other vehicles available!

Faster in corners comments are just made by people with blind folds on.

Over weight, front heavy, dated technology, terrible geometry, expensive to run blah blah.

We are all enthusiasts but the fan boys who have never actually owned a real race spec GTR shit me to tears.

The deal with Kelly racing was not put together overnight. It was well known that there was discussions taking place.

One team ive had some dealings with recently buying parts from will also be following KR's lead and taking on a new manufacturer come the COFT too.

i once saw a r34 GTR in the GT production series (quite a few years ago now, probably nearly 10 years). so this was a pretty much stock car (as per the rules) and in it's class was a few ferraris, 911's (nissan's claimed rival of the GTR) and a few others. from memory the GTR had a somewhat experienced driver. so how did it go? well it got smashed by pretty much everything in it's class and was back mixing with cars from the class below.

[Marlin]

A silver R33 it was. Can't remember the dudes name now, but had several heavy accidents in it. Several reshells were required.

[Jetwreck]

I wonder if we can get one of the Kelly bro's on the first win to say "were back....you pack of arseholes!"

Lolz

[Marco-R34GTT]

I wonder if we can get one of the Kelly bro's on the first win to say "were back....you pack of arseholes!"

Lolz

That would be an epic win of immeasurable proportions!

[sav man]

I doubt the Kelly bro's will get the first win. But one of their customer cars probably will.

I remember that silver r33 in gtp. It spent most of its time in the wall.

[MBS206]

i think you mean a gap that's 10% the width of the car and then finding they are missing 90% of their car

How else do you expect to go 3 wide of the top of the Mountain?

[NISMO]

Given they're backed by NISMO, who do have a bit of experience with 8's and RWD, whats the view on how they'll go?

[hrd-hr30]

yeah, Procar put the old R33 GTR in with the current model exotics/supercars (Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche etc) in Nation's Cup rather than with the other production cars (WRX, Evo, HSV, RX7, 200SX, and that insanely fast Mustang Bowe drove!) in GT Production. What do you expect? At least it saved the embarrasment of being beaten by Evos...

[Jetwreck]

Given they're backed by NISMO, who do have a bit of experience with 8's and RWD, whats the view on how they'll go?

Most of the teams are going to be in the same boat with development/setup........Aero will be sorted before the car ever hits the circuit............so the only issue may be the motor. Of which they may have a short struggle with as I am guessing they will go OHC rather that OHV.

Personally going off there current V8 stats I think they will kick arse.......I may be a little bias though.

[djr81]

Most of the teams are going to be in the same boat with development/setup........Aero will be sorted before the car ever hits the circuit............so the only issue may be the motor. Of which they may have a short struggle with as I am guessing they will go OHC rather that OHV.

Personally going off there current V8 stats I think they will kick arse.......I may be a little bias though.

Going off their current stats they will struggle to win anything unless it is raining. Then have a cry about it. Then take their drivers to court. Then cry some more.

The thing that shits me about it (other than the "we was banned" fan boys) are people who choose to beleive that the engineers who work on the current cars are anything but world class. Just because the rules are limited doesnt mean the work they do is not excellent.

But anyway - good on Nissan for having a go. Hope they alienate fewer people than last time - because last time was a PR disaster.

[whatsisname]

John Teulan is the name of the guy that owned and drove the silver 33 GT-R in the old Nations Cup - later replaced by Aust GT. Teulan's 33 GT-R was always going to struggle against vastly more powerful and newer exotics... and Teulan himself, not exactly the sharpest driver in the field (don't think he won anything in over a decade of trying).

[phunky_monkey]

The AussieRacingCars has the best "racing" by a country mile. Its like watching a 4 wheeled version of the 125cc's!! Constantly 4 wide and lead changes every lap!

Aussie Racing is awesome. Very cool little cars, and seeing them 4 wide around most corners is too good.

I was racing against one at PI yesterday in the WRX, quick through the corners.

[whatsisname]

Going off their current stats they will struggle to win anything unless it is raining. Then have a cry about it. Then take their drivers to court. Then cry some more.

I may have misinterepted your comments but if not I'd suggest you go and look at the 32 GT-R race results during its time in the early 90's ATCC... I think you'll find that Nissan did more than win in the rain!

In the 1991 ATCC (predecessor to V8 series) the GT-R won 7 out of the 9 rounds in the championship, and rain was rarely a factor. This is just one example. Do some research.

[Roy]

...are people who choose to beleive that the engineers who work on the current cars are anything but world class. Just because the rules are limited doesnt mean the work they do is not excellent.

Agree, trying to find gains when everything is so controlled is a difficult task.

[No Crust Racing]

I may have misinterepted your comments

Yes you did.

He said CURRENT results not shit from the late 80s and early 90s, huge difference.

[whatsisname]

Yes you did.

He said CURRENT results not shit from the late 80s and early 90s, huge difference.

It's a bit hard for Nissan to have current results in the premier class of touring car racing in Australia, the last time they were involved was 1992! He also referenced Nissan only winning in the rain, which sounds like the infamous 1992 Bathurst race.

As for the 'banned' comments, the facts remain that from the beginning of the 1993 ATCC season turbocharged cars were no longer permitted resulting in the banning of both the GT-R and Ford Sierra.

[No Crust Racing]

*facepalm*

He's talking about Nissan's current involvement in racing in general, obviously not V8SCs...

Contrary to popular belief there are countries other than Australia that partake in Motorsport... even using V8s, no kidding!

As for the rain my guess would be he means SuperGT.

Time for the man himself to clarify as I need to get out of my pissy pants.

Edited February 13, 2012 by ActionDan

[djr81]

It's a bit hard for Nissan to have current results in the premier class of touring car racing in Australia, the last time they were involved was 1992!

I was actually talking about the Kelly families current results, not Nissans.

The only time the Kelly's were om the ball last year was when it has been wet.

For what it is worth I watched the group A touring car races back in the day. They werent a patch on the rpesent day races for depth of field, quality of racing and professionalism.

Edited February 13, 2012 by djr81

[No Crust Racing]

I could go back and edit my now obviously incorrect posts, but I'm too lazy so it can just stay wrong.