Info On Making My S1 Man

[whitenight27]

hi all i need some info from people that have made there stags man.

i am also fitting a R motor as well

i have seen the forms telling u whats involved but i want to know what ever will give me trouble.

i have been told this so far

the box tunnel is different to the auto. so man box wont fit straight in and hand brake as well

s2 man pedal box is different to s1 and wont just bolt in

some thing to do with the awd censer not fitting right

cred in perth was telling me i need a half cut to get body parts off to fit it all

i not want it to be doggy done but done good and right

[KiwiRS4T]

Have you read this:

http://www.skylinesd...ead.php?t=51894

and this:

http://www.skylinesa...sion-checklist/

That pretty much covers it. Most of what you have been told is wrong. You don't need a half cut (the 260RS is built from an RS4T off the assembly line) just need (obviously) to cut a hole for the gearshift and weld the handbrake bracket on ...the GTR box will fit with a little jiggling - all the information is in the above links - its quite straightforward and can be done in a day or weekend if you have all the bits lined up. Best done with some mates - i have heard of some workshops charging ridiculous amounts of money to do it.

BTW if you are fitting an RB26 budget for a decent clutch and a brake and suspension upgrade so you can keep it on the road!

(Oh and one of my 300km/hr speedo kits!)

[whitenight27]

yer i have read the top form post befor.

i should also let u know i have a s1 rs4 if that will make things a little different or not?

i was planning on getting a s2 pedal box , clutch master cylinder and line.

would i still need the gtr brake booster? and need to recess the master back? being that i am also fitting a 26

[KiwiRS4T]

What do you mean by a S1 RS4 - do you mean no turbo? If so you will have even weaker brakes but all the conversion stuff will be the same.

I used an R34 clutch pedal I think but without the power booster so no recessing.

Because of the Greddy copy FF plenum I had to use a stock R33 clutch master as the 33GTR or 34 one (I can't remember) was too long. That may or may not be the case with the RB26DETT plenum.

Your brake booster will be fine (check that you have a BM50 brake m/c). I used the stock set up when I changed to GTT brakes (good idea for you) but left the booster but changed the brake m/c to an R34GTR one (BM57) when I fitted the D2s

[kidafa]

the box tunnel is different to the auto. so man box wont fit straight in..

Tunnel is the same, fits easily.

hand brake as well

Easy to get around, you need a hand brake mount out of a manual skyline and spot weld/rivet it onto your tunnel....

s2 man pedal box is different to s1 and wont just bolt in

You need R34 clutch master cylinder and pedal, it bolts right up ;-). take the boot of your auto brake pedal and grind it down and fit a r33 brake boot over when your done. Dont bother changing the brake pedal its a MASSIVE PAIN IN THE ASS

some thing to do with the awd censer not fitting right

Correct, depends which console you use but you'll need to move it slightly... its easy just put it out of the way

cred in perth was telling me i need a half cut to get body parts off to fit it all

i not want it to be doggy done but done good and right

Well if you dont want it done dodgy i wouldnt be taking it to CRED thats for sure!

I did mine myself on the shed floor on jackstands... Id never changed a clutch before and I didnt find it that hard, had minimal experience too as I was only 20 but I've always loved tinkering with stuff.

Heres a thread I made ; http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/331327-my-manual-conversion-findings/page__hl__manual+conversion

feel free to ask for any help, best bet is to PM as ill get an email cos I dont frequent SAU that much anymore.....

[whitenight27]

haha yer its a rs4v 25det at the moment.

changing to 33gtst brakes later on till i find some 33 or 34 gtr.

so ur saying that the s2 stagea clutch pedal and master cylinder are no good to me? and would be better of chasing down a r34gtt?

shame i just missed out on a cheap 32gts4 box.

[KiwiRS4T]

so ur saying that the s2 stagea clutch pedal and master cylinder are no good to me? and would be better of chasing down a r34gtt?

Didn't see anybody say that.

[Cowboy1600]

What do you mean by a S1 RS4 - do you mean no turbo? If so you will have even weaker brakes but all the conversion stuff will be the same.

I used an R34 clutch pedal I think but without the power booster so no recessing.

Because of the Greddy copy FF plenum I had to use a stock R33 clutch master as the 33GTR or 34 one (I can't remember) was too long. That may or may not be the case with the RB26DETT plenum.

Your brake booster will be fine (check that you have a BM50 brake m/c). I used the stock set up when I changed to GTT brakes (good idea for you) but left the booster but changed the brake m/c to an R34GTR one (BM57) when I fitted the D2s

S1 = Series 1.

Rather than a Series Two:

[whitenight27]

haha yer i know what s1 is mine is the first pic.

i not say that some 1 said that a s2 clutch pedal is no good no 1 say or not if it will fit easy.

was told to get a 34 gtt pedal and master cylinder. i was asking about the s2 as i have 1 lined up to buy and not want to get the wrong 1 that's all

[KiwiRS4T]

I would assume that the S2 clutch pedal would fit perfectly. The reason everyone says R34 pedal is because Stagea clutch pedals S1 or S2 (I would expect they would be exactly the same ) are very rare and therefore not an easy option for most people.

[whitenight27]

ok cool cool will be getting that guys parts. shame i mist out on the gts4 box thow.

owell more huntting haha

[KiwiRS4T]

R33 GTR boxes are reasonably common and shouldn't be too expensive.

[4bidn1]

R32 boxses are a little weaker not much but clutches are heaps cheaper so save $ boxses around 400 500

[whitenight27]

yer i have a clutch and flywheel with the motor i got of my mate so all good with dat part.

the box i missed out on was a r32 gts4 for 200 owell he needed it gorn and i did not have all da info i needed

[Raysboostin]

I wouldnt be looking at r32 gts4 gearboxes. Have a search on here, alot of ppl saying they are too weak. In a heavy car like a stagea it wont last long.

[driftae76]

How do you fit electronic speedo to R32 (cable speedo) box?

[whitenight27]

How do you fit electronic speedo to R32 (cable speedo) box?

there would be a adapter. i not getting that box any how as it is in the bin mow lol

[whitenight27]

ok i have a hand brake lined up but need to know how much of the cable do i need.

do i only need it to the junction where it meets the lines that go to the hubs?

or need it all the way?

[4bidn1]

Just to the junction is all ya need..

[whitenight27]

ok sweet as