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reeceo21

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reeceo21

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Hello just been looking through all the el cheapo turbos and have been wondering if these are worth the risk. I have been sussing out reviews from around 2006, They all seem to say steer clear but while there is not many newer posts they seem to like them quite a bit more. While my turbo is fine i probably wont chuck one on but when i run into some more money again i might.

While You may see that as being stupid here is my take on them

- I have had many of friends blow HKS, Garrett etc but thats not really frowned upon if they cack it or need rebuilding but if an ebay one dies its all like ' its crap dont get it etc " im not dissing the bigger brands im just saying the ebay ones do seem to get alot of hate

- Through new technology and experience in the turbo industry i believe they would have learnt from there mistakes to an extent. I do understand the build quality will not be as good as a HKS or whatever but i reckon they would be alright i have heard loads of good things about monsta. That being said on all the old posts alot of bad

- If 3 or 4 people lunch em that could be all it takes it ruin a business. People talk. I see people whinge when there commodore engine blows after 50000k's of not being serviced and they will forever steer clear because its so unreliable blah blah. But if you have a engine that lasts 5000000 thats been serviced you wont hear how reliable it has been.

Anyways thats just my 2c on the matter. I understand you get what you pay for but really keen on experiences/stories of others. Chuck in ya 2c's :D

rob82 Mentor

rob82

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At 120,000 rpm would you trust a cheap product. When they fail they there is a possibility that it will take the engine with it.

Sure the big names have failed but on a 10k build when your talking the difference of maybe $1000 I wouldn't risk it!

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kitto

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The only sort of direct dealings i've had with an ebay turbo;

RB30E+T

GT35R equivalent cheap turbo

- On idle, the turbine would not spin, at all. It would sit there and wait until there was enough exhaust gas flow to start turning the turbine. Probably a combination of a too large exhaust housing plus really crap bearings.

- It seized after doing 2,000 odd kms or so.

I'd steer clear. If you want a cheap turbo, i believe the kinugawa turbos are ok, and i believe the kando dynamics are ok for the money. I have had nothing to do with either though.

battery Mentor

battery

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While my turbo is fine i probably wont chuck one on but when i run into some more money again i might.

This tells me you will never do it.

Sooooooooooo many threads on the shit monsta/generic t3-t4 turbos they are a waste of time and even if it makes the power you will get rubbish power delivery.

Hypergears and kandos are pretty cheap as far as im concerned and have been proven.

Hanaldo Grand Master

Hanaldo

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I read some pretty sad stuff on borg warner turbos here on SAU so dont know bout that.

Better read it again then mate, BW make fantastic high quality turbos. It's only the EFR range that had some problems, though those appear to be a thing of the past now too.

HEKT1K Grand Master

HEKT1K

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Garrett, hks, kando, Borg Warner or hypergear. Anything else means you're a tard and should sell your car and buy a hyundai excel.

The thread should now end and be closed.

IHI? KKK? Precision?

No need for that attitude mate :rolleyes: Agreed it's a shit thread, but still

battery Mentor

battery

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Does anyone know about these arashi turbos look just like the kandos I'm wondering if there internal gates are better

Seriously if you want internal gate take a look at the latest hypergear http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/55845-rb25-turbo-upgrade-all-dyno-results/page__view__findpost__p__6223498

GTSBoy Grand Master

GTSBoy

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Here's the thing. Big brand turbos usually fail because someone associated with the job was an idiot. Either just a ham fisted idiot, or an ignorant idiot, or one who closes his eyes puts hands over ears and says "lalalalalala" when he knows he's pushing a turbo past what is wise. If everything - selection, installation and use - of turbos was done properly, the failure rate of big brand turbos would be even lower than it is now.

Here's the other thing. Cheap arse eBay turbos usually fail because they're chosen and installed by cheaper versions of the idiots above. All the idiot related failure modes apply, and on top of that, the turbos have an inherently higher chanceof just being a bad product by nature of where they come from and the level of technology in them.

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The Mafia Grand Master

The Mafia

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Here's the thing. Big brand turbos usually fail because someone associated with the job was an idiot. Either just a ham fisted idiot, or an ignorant idiot, or one who closes his eyes puts hands over ears and says "lalalalalala" when he knows he's pushing a turbo past what is wise. If everything - selection, installation and use - of turbos was done properly, the failure rate of big brand turbos would be even lower than it is now.

Here's the other thing. Cheap arse eBay turbos usually fail because they're chosen and installed by cheaper versions of the idiots above. All the idiot related failure modes apply, and on top of that, the turbos have an inherently higher chanceof just being a bad product by nature of where they come from and the level of technology in them.

Amen

Now they can /thread

limpus Mentor

limpus

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IHI? KKK? Precision?

No need for that attitude mate :rolleyes: Agreed it's a shit thread, but still

Yup...and what about other brands like Trust and Turbonetics to name a few....typical close minded dribble from him....

The Mafia Grand Master

The Mafia

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Ok so I missed a few because I wasnt interested in putting too much effort into a thread about these dick stroking monsta turbos and the rest.

Go and eat some ass.

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Rowdy

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should be an auto close & delete thread filter on this forum, key words combinations such as eBay turbo should lock and delete the thread automatically :thumbsup:

haha true.

There was a generic bok choi T3-4 hybrid shitheap bastard of a turbo on my rb20 when i bought it. it lasted about 10,000K all up (including the time spent in the car before i bought it) before the oil seal let go. It was crap.

my 2c.

Rowdy.

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