SYK-200 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Hello everyone...again! a few months ago i built a rb25, and ever since it was running their was a really high pitch squeal coming from the engine and i had no clue wat it was until yesturday i took off the cam covers and found metal shavings at the first cam cap, so i took it off, and what do i find? the cam cap and camshaft have been worn VERY badly, wat can cause this? no oil getting to it? over tightening the bolts? i didnt install the cams, we sent it to our local machine shop and got the block/head cleaned up, also installed tomei valve springs. ill post up a picture so you can all see how bad it is... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsa Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Smashed it good job haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/#findComment-6239633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2LV8ETR Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 This is the reason I do all my own work. It's hard to find someone you can trust. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/#findComment-6239652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob82 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) From those phots it appears to be Abrasive wear which is probably due to lack of sufficient lubrication. It seams weird that it etched the middle of the cam bearing surface away. My guess is they possibly tunnel bored the cam bore and forgot to debur the oil feed cause both a blockage of the oil passage and significantly higher loading on the middle section of the cam journal. Really hard to tell just from those photos. Edited February 17, 2012 by rob82 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/#findComment-6239661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnoHR31 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 did they do any machining? was it the original cap from that engine installed on the correct side? if so lack of oil is the only reason for that to happen, but to get that bad it must have been getting no oil whatsoever. what does the oil feed look like? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/#findComment-6239693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dan Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 If you put the cap on the wrong side and the top half overlaps the bottom half on the leading side, it will start removing material from the cap as it rotates. The removed material will just stay there, stuck in the middle and continuing to wear the cam away like a big clump of camf*ck Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/#findComment-6239863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVS JEZ Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Camf*ck sounds bad Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/#findComment-6239872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abr33 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Does look like there was no oil, how long was it squeeling for? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/#findComment-6239957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYK-200 Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 at JONNOHR31, i dont exactly know what they machined, my brother got the machining work, the engine was my school project for HSC, i built most of it, brother payed for it all... at abr33, we first started the engine in around july 2011, and since 16th feb, it probably has only been started ~15 times. is this at all repairable, or a new head is needed now? definately a new cam is needed lol, on the positive side, at least i found this problem before something worse happened! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/#findComment-6240154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abr33 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Repairable? maybe, get a competent shop to weld your busted journal and tunnel bore it back out. Or if its easier get a new head, your lucky you didnt break your cam and eat your engine Would be a tricky one to repair Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/392073-rb25-cam-cap-buggered/#findComment-6241167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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