Wanted R35 2009 Black Gtr

[skiids]

Can't believe people that own these GTR's. I have spoken to three people selling black ones and they are all F#@ked in the head.

All I want is a BLACK GTR, I'm offering good money not low balling anyone and still. OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!

Interested to know why they're all f#@led in the head?

[GTR-N1]

He said "F#@ked" - not "f#@led"; but I don't why they'd be all F#@ked either!

[THE_350GT]

Must have just been bad luck mate.

The R35 owners i've spoken to on this forum have been approachable and more than helpful.

Yeah the ones on the forum are REALLY good great guys.

The two on sale on carsales at the moment the cheaper black one, the chick who claims its her car after agreeing on a price she then calls me back wanting CASH only. ARE YOU SERIOUS !!!!!! who gives 103K in cash.

Then the other doosh bag that had it priced at 115K said I can have the car for 110K, a little over budget but for the mods it had I went for it called him back and he denied even saying I could have the car for 110K - IT gets BETTER then has the balls to raise the price to 119,995K after I spoke to him.

So my next choice of colour is the dark silver hopefully I’ll have better luck and have a car end of week.

Edited March 4, 2012 by THE_350GT

[GT-R OZ]

I wouldn't touch either of those cars anyway. Both are way over priced!

[Wardski]

Used 2009's should be priced around the 105-110k mark. I'd take nothing more that that - as well as a copy of the black box print out to see how its been treated.

If the owners are changing the price, they've probably underestimated how much they still owe, and realised that they need more $$ to cover the loan payout + fees.

IMO black is a biatch to keep swirl free too.. Super Silver, Titanium or Gun metal are way better options

Edited March 5, 2012 by Wardski

[iwanta34gtr]

Used 2009's should be priced around the 105-110k mark. I'd take nothing more that that - as well as a copy of the black box print out to see how its been treated.

If the owners are changing the price, they've probably underestimated how much they still owe, and realised that they need more $$ to cover the loan payout + fees.

IMO black is a biatch to keep swirl free too.. Super Silver, Titanium or Gun metal are way better options

Loving this whole black box thing.

What is the correct process for a potential buyer to get his / her hands on the info?

Do most performance car workshops have access to the tools required to pull the data? Or is it only Nissan that have access to the tools (at the moment).

Edited March 5, 2012 by iwanta34gtr

[g35me]

Loving this whole black box thing.

What is the correct process for a potential buyer to get his / her hands on the info?

Do most performance car workshops have access to the tools required to pull the data? Or is it only Nissan that have access to the tools (at the moment).

Correct me if I am wrong but the "Black Box" does not hold data indefinately it is only over a short period of time. Please correct me if I am wrong but everytime they show me the graphs they only go back a month or so.

[Wardski]

Correct me if I am wrong but the "Black Box" does not hold data indefinately it is only over a short period of time. Please correct me if I am wrong but everytime they show me the graphs they only go back a month or so.

I understand that the BB stores everything from 0kms, and this data is downloaded by Nissan at every service - and used against you when you have a warranty claim.

http://www.gtr.co.uk...-black-box.html

VEHICLE STATUS DATA RECORDER (VSDR)

The Nissan GT-R is equipped with a Vehicle Status Data Recorder (VSDR). The VSDR is designed to record (i) vehicle operating and performance information (such as gear position); (ii) engine control information (such as engine speed and boost pressure); and (iii) component replacement and/or re-programming history.

NISSAN, NISSAN affiliates and NISSAN High Performance Centre (NHPC) may access and use the data recorded by the VSDR to (i) evaluate warranty claims; and (ii) carry out statistical analysis and ongoing research and development of the GTR-R.

The VSDR does not record conversations, other sounds, images or location based data [handy - given that ALL cars, including non-SatNav UK cars, have a GPS sensor in them!]. No personal data are recorded by the VSDR. However, the information recorded on the VSDR may be combined with your personal information by NISSAN (and/or NISSAN Higher Performance Centre (NHPC)) for the above purposes.

NISSAN will not share the VSDR data (without your agreement) with any third parties other than NISSAN affiliates and NISSAN Higher Performance Centre (NHPC) except as required by law of any enforcement authority or in an anonymised form for statistical analysis and research. The data on the VSDR are encrypted so that the information is secure and can only be accessed by people with the relevant technology to read the data.

You should not tamper with or disable the VSDR (or engine or permit anyone else to do so). You acknowledge that any warranty claim will be subject to NISSAN or NISSAN Higher Performance Centre (NHPC) obtaining access to the data on the VSDR and that tampering with or disabling the VSDR may invalidate the manufacturer's warranty. Your statutory rights will not be affected. You should have the VSDR inspected if the vehicle has been involved in an accident, flooding, or other event which might have damaged the VSDR.

Mind you, I could be wrong - Someone on this thread says up to 40 hrs only, but only the boffins @ Nissan in Japan would be able to give you a definitive answer on this one.

http://www.gtr.co.uk...-time-vsdr.html

Edited March 6, 2012 by Wardski

[domino_z]

yep reads and stores everything from 0kms

apparently i removed my TCM module at 738kms and the car didnt move while disconnected - it is printed on every service receipt

i have no f'ing idea what they are on about - i did however disconnect my tail light harness at 738kms and couldn't drive my car while sitting in the boot installing dynamat and my 4 tail light bypass kit

[10 4]

Don't budge. Get a black one, why the rush?

[andz]

You have the money, u'll get the car, just be patience

[CSH73]

Yeah the ones on the forum are REALLY good great guys.

The two on sale on carsales at the moment the cheaper black one, the chick who claims its her car after agreeing on a price she then calls me back wanting CASH only. ARE YOU SERIOUS !!!!!! who gives 103K in cash.

Then the other doosh bag that had it priced at 115K said I can have the car for 110K, a little over budget but for the mods it had I went for it called him back and he denied even saying I could have the car for 110K - IT gets BETTER then has the balls to raise the price to 119,995K after I spoke to him.

So my next choice of colour is the dark silver hopefully I'll have better luck and have a car end of week.

Hey mate - I may be looking to sell my car soon - got married .....let me know if interested? I will take pics this weekend and look to advertise. 2009, premium silver, 31tk's. PM me if any interest. I am in Brisbane.

[Jap_Muscle]

Then the other doosh bag that had it priced at 115K said I can have the car for 110K, a little over budget but for the mods it had I went for it called him back and he denied even saying I could have the car for 110K - IT gets BETTER then has the balls to raise the price to 119,995K after I spoke to him.

I spoke to the guy who was selling the R35 for $115k as well, when i asked him to arrange documents confirming that the car not tracked, or launched he said he wasnt interested in selling to people like me.

WTF?!

Im sticking around for a black one as well.

[GT-R OZ]

You can definitely do a hell of a lot better then that black one on carsales! Way over priced, too many KLM's, absolutely no warranty with the mods, probably been thrashed on the track with no tranny cooler and standard OEM fluid and to top it off the guy sounds like a real tosser!

Edited March 8, 2012 by GT-R OZ

[Wardski]

Hey mate - I may be looking to sell my car soon - got married .....let me know if interested? I will take pics this weekend and look to advertise. 2009, premium silver, 31tk's. PM me if any interest. I am in Brisbane.

Not sure why you'd sell just because you got married - if my wife forced me to sell the GT-R I'd soon go pack her bags for her lol..... Unless of course you got the car before you bought a house, in which case you might need that $$ for a deposit

Edited March 9, 2012 by Wardski

[Wardski]

yep reads and stores everything from 0kms

apparently i removed my TCM module at 738kms and the car didnt move while disconnected - it is printed on every service receipt

i have no f'ing idea what they are on about - i did however disconnect my tail light harness at 738kms and couldn't drive my car while sitting in the boot installing dynamat and my 4 tail light bypass kit

Wholy beejesus... so it is true.. The US boys obviously have no clue then.

[g35me]

All the '09's are going to run out of warranty soon anyway. So the absolutely no warranty argument becomes void for them all shortly. As for never being launched, what would be the point of having the car if you don't launch it a few times? Aussie ddelivered GTR's had a watered down launch control and the original Jap spec ones (07 & 08) with the harsh launch control were no doubt exagerated on the internet anyway. How many daily driven ADM R35's have you heard of with stuffed gearboxes? I understand the part about being tracked and gearbox temps etc and I wouidnt like to own a track pig either, but honestly if the car presents well and drives well then what is the issue.

Edited March 9, 2012 by g35me

[Jap_Muscle]

I understand the part about being tracked and gearbox temps etc and I wouidnt like to own a track pig either, but honestly if the car presents well and drives well then what is the issue.

I dont know mch avout the gearbox isses but if heard horror stories about gearboxes being destroyed from using the harsh launch controls.

The issue is the $25k repair bill if something does go wrong. Im not really clued in on this so if you anyone care to bring me up to speed about the issues with 09 launch control, that be great.

[g35me]

I dont know mch avout the gearbox isses but if heard horror stories about gearboxes being destroyed from using the harsh launch controls.

The issue is the $25k repair bill if something does go wrong. Im not really clued in on this so if you anyone care to bring me up to speed about the issues with 09 launch control, that be great.

There are no issues with 09 + launch control. Any isues were seen in the 07-08 launch control and from what I understand they were over exagerated on the internet with hearsay etc. Don't you remember all the garbage that was flying around about the R35 GTR in the early days, basically none of it was true as the people spreading the garbage didn't own one or have any experience with one.

Has anyone here had any experience with a stuffed gearbox through daily driving, a few launch controls or the occasional track day? I would think someone that races the car compeditivly might feel the need to upgrade some gearbox parts but for 98% of us it is not an issue at all.

I am sure if ADM GTR guys were actually sending there cars back to Nissan with gearbox problems it would have been all over the internet years ago considering these cars are 3 years old now. Why can't we just put this gearbox issue to rest where it should have been in 2007.

[g35me]

I dont know mch avout the gearbox isses but if heard horror stories about gearboxes being destroyed from using the harsh launch controls.

ADM's dont have Harsh Launch Controls, the revs were reduced. And once again, you heard stories nothing more.