p platers

[harumomo]

okie. just to satisfy my curiousity cuz i couldn't get this answered in another thread. are p-platers allowed to drive r33 gtst skylines with all that power to weight ratio stuff?

[redline2003]

this has been covered a fair few times by myself and other people(mainly p platers) in the past lol, in melb a p plater is not allowed to drive any R33 GTST, b it auto or maunal, be it with 1 tonne of lead in the back or not, it goes by factory weight and factory power output. only way u can do it legally is if its the only car in the family etc but u need documents to ssist in this. cops dont seem to care much, they too busy defecting cars with neon, bovs, guages and other ludacris things

[urbanoperations]

ive seen p platers driving Gtir pulsars and tt 300zxs, but it doesnt really matter i suppose as cops are to busy doing other things the power to weight ratioing your car, if you go to vic roads they have an information sheet stating the types of cars that p platers are not aloud to drive , ie. gtr skyline, 300zx twin turbo...

[JAMESW]

i have been told by several cops that it is ok for p platers to drive gts-t's.

james.

[KamikazeR33]

r32's yes

come to nsw, far better place for p platers

[NuGGeT]

come to wa. u can drive anything

[Jolinator]

yeh, but you get defected

[GTRboy]

yeh, but you get defected

i already no about that....

[Chunks]

it goes by factory weight and factory power output

So essentially you could make a 500kw car but as long as long as it was under 125kw/tonne from teh factory its legal for P Platers. That would rock.

[harumomo]

what's "defecting"?

[LaL]

i am on my p's , drive a 350kw r33 gtr...been pulled over a billion times.. nothing happends.

[LBR33]

in melb you can own a skyline if you have a business regestered in your name and declare it for business work (it doesnt say anything about actively trading).

In qld ya can drive anything and no speed restrictions only the legal limit.

[!3oost]

yea im bout to get ma p's and i got a r33 gtst in melb and its all under my name and i have no probs with it..............i reakon they make that list just so that they dont have all p platers going out there getting huge performance cars and wiping themsleves out.

[riggaP]

yea im bout to get ma p's and i got a r33 gtst in melb and its all under my name and i have no probs with it..............i reakon they make that list just so that they dont have all p platers going out there getting huge performance cars and wiping themsleves out.

:confused:

You can register any car in your name after the age of 16, but that doesn’t mean you can legally drive it on public roads. P platers are getting performance cars. No list or law is ever going to prevent that. You as a p plater are living proof. They might not be wiping themselves out but they're certainly wiping the cars out (checked your insurance premium lately?)

I have worked for the licensing dept at Vicroads (gladly no longer) and can say that R33 GTS25ts are 100% P plate restricted. Wether the coppers enforce the rule is a completely different story.

There is no "list" anymore (altho every car originally on the list is still P plate restricted). The list was phased out in 2000 to make way for the power to weight ratio and the capacity to weight ratio.

IMHO reasons for having such a law are valid, however it needs some serious attention.

Everything in this post relates to Victoria only. I have nfi how it works in other states...

[doxximus]

So essentially you could make a 500kw car but as long as long as it was under 125kw/tonne from teh factory its legal for P Platers. That would rock.

then they would open your bonnet, see the himount turbo, fmic, pod, bov, boost controller etc, and you will have a nice yellow sticker to go under your p plate

[evolutionMR]

yeah just dont go stupid things that would attract the wrong sort of attention.

[paulr33]

i have a question, i believe r31nismoid has pointed this out before. how do they prove this? what if harumomo was driving an r33 gtst that had a restriction value on the air flow meter so that it restricted its airflow to 1/2 its normal throughput therefore it would only output 1/2 tyhe power. would the cops still just fine u?

[funkymonkey]

yup, since its the FACTORY sepcifications that matter, not how poorly you've tuned it.

oh and if you live in NSW and you get your Probationary license suspended for illegally racing on the street, you are restricted to 115kw/tonne and sent back to your L's. Why do you think I drive a GTS now n not my 180sx? lol

[r33skylinegtst]

Gotta love the ACT