Are Federal 595 Super Steels Rubbish?

[widebody180]

I've been running these Federal 595 SS tyres for a while on my R32 GTR. In the dry they aren't too bad, although they aren't amazing, but in the wet I feel like I'm driving on ice. Even minor acceleration around a round about and I'm understeering towards the gutter. The back end can be a little skittish too, but that is quickly corrected by the 4wd sending power to the front, which then makes it under steer like crazy. The tyres it had on previously were no name chinese tyres, so I'm not really sure if I'm expecting too much of it. I plan to take it in for a wheel alignment this week.

Has anyone else had experience with these tyres and found them ghastly?

Would the Kumho KU31 be any better?

[zebra]

Spend some money and dont buy the chespest shit out there

for an extra 20-30 bucks a tyre you can get some decent ones

[beau_32]

agreed, ku31's $140ea ku36's $180ea not that i think 36's are great but they shit on 31's. (that on 235x45x17)

[mystery_kid]

nothing wrong with 595ss, unless you drive like a tool they should be totally fine for driving around streets

sounds like your wheel alignment to be honest, they have been fine for me in the wet

havent seen any difference between them and the bridgestone RE001`s i had on my old car (cost a lot more than $20-$30 extra)

the people with lots of money to burn will tell you to spend a lot, but in reality they are as good or better than lot of more expensive brand tyres

you probably need some more camber if youre understeering

[widebody180]

I've got no problem spending an extra $20-30 a corner, but it is a bit stupid to say that without giving some examples of better tires for that amount of money. I'm not going to go a spend a few hundred per corner, I don't drive my car hard enough to warrant it. It is my daily driver to and from work. I just expect to be able to drive around a round about without heading for the gutter even at very low speeds. It has been a problem since them were put on the car, perhaps the tyre shop hasn't been doing a very good job at wheel alignments.

[mystery_kid]

Yep well I drive my r34 to and from work everyday and never had a problem with understeer wet or dry

I guess it depends how hard you expect to drive through a round about in the wet

[widebody180]

Yeah they must have done something with the wheel alignment, when i say light acceleration makes it understeer, I'm talking abou the slightest pressure on the pedal. Well I'll get it into a proper suspension shop and get them to check it out. Next time I'll spend a little more on the tyres.

[boostn0199]

Depends what your trying to do with the car for street tyre there great but if you were to want more grip at tge track better off with the federal rsr

[GTSBoy]

The 595SS does have a reputation for not sticking well in the wet.

[R31Nismoid]

595ss/KU31 - same boat really. Both are not a decent performance tyre so you'll be making compromises.

Depends what you want, and what your budget is.

You would always drive slower in the wet around round-a-bouts, most people do that.

[boostn0199]

Way i see it if you cant control a car driving normally on tge street with average tyres you shouldnt have a licencse its not like your tsking at 200kms on the street snd in the wet shoild always be extra cautious. Btw im not personally aiming this at OP saying this is hes case just generslly saying.

[mystery_kid]

yeah i reckon you might need to have a look at your camber

but still even stock it has like 1.5 degrees so it should be ok

what sort of rim width/offset/tyre size are you running?

[NISSAN GTR]

Adjusting just camber , will help a little !

but you should be maxing the toe as well it should corner unbelievably but will cause tyre wear , but its well worth it ,

i run Ventus Hankook RS -3 tyre

[zebra]

Way i see it if you cant control a car driving normally on tge street with average tyres you shouldnt have a licencse its not like your tsking at 200kms on the street snd in the wet shoild always be extra cautious. Btw im not personally aiming this at OP saying this is hes case just generslly saying.

What do you do when some half drunk ass hole steps out in front of you, or a car pulls out infront of you?

That the way I see it

[boostn0199]

What do you do when some half drunk ass hole steps out in front of you, or a car pulls out infront of you?

That the way I see it

Unless your speeding or doing something wrong you shouldn't really need special expensive tyres to stop in time.

[dori34]

im running them now, they're ok for $120 fitted in 235/40/18.

experience some minor understeer in the wet, might be related to my wheel alignment tho as it had the same feeling with toyo proxes 4 as well.

in the dry they are decent.

[The Bogan]

I'm running -3.5 front and -2 rear camber, Hankook ventus RS 3, 255/40 17.

I have no understeer on the street wet or dry.

Cheap hard tyres are fine for shopping trolleys or doing skids.

Tyres cost $125 a piece from tire rack.$730 delivered.

Why do people buy sporty style cars and then go pov on the most important part.

[bubba]

595SS's aren't the greatest but they're alright bang-for-buck, I have run them as daily tyres on all my cars for a few years and have never had issues like the OP has mentioned.. even in my stiffly sprung, low, 2-way'd, 3L'd R32 GTSt.. even in the 2t Wagoon of Hillariousness, no crazy understeer issues

What's up with your alignment settings OP?

[Hank Scorpio]

Unless your speeding or doing something wrong you shouldn't really need special expensive tyres to stop in time.

Whut?

I agree with Zebra. I run Toyo Proxes R1Rs because who knows what might happen no matter how awesome I am.

[Dylaan]

I went from Toyo Proxes to 595ss', the Proxes were definitely better in the wet but in the dry I find them pretty similar.