Wakefield Wrap Up Thread

[Pezhead]

+1 for bleeding the brakes. Mine were going soft after two sessions. I need to do a full flush and I have the RBF660! I think Neil mentioned that most of the racer guys run something else.. Don't remember what though.

I run Hawk Blue Race pads. Great pad for running all day without fade, but they will eat rotors. But then again, I think any really agressive pad will. Changing pads on Skylines is so easy I really recommend getting a set just for track and different set for the street. I run A1RM's on the street. Will probably step up to the Hawk HT-10's soon.

[levinboy]

+1 for bleeding the brakes. Mine were going soft after two sessions. I need to do a full flush and I have the RBF660! I think Neil mentioned that most of the racer guys run something else.. Don't remember what though.

I run Hawk Blue Race pads. Great pad for running all day without fade, but they will eat rotors. But then again, I think any really agressive pad will. Changing pads on Skylines is so easy I really recommend getting a set just for track and different set for the street. I run A1RM's on the street. Will probably step up to the Hawk HT-10's soon.

Would be keen to hear what fluid the racer guys use so I know in the future

Yea after finally doing a track day I can see that the pads I have (project mu Bspec) are good for the street and the odd spirited drive

Will be getting a second set of pads dedicated to track days will probably go the club racers (bit of a project mu whore ) and have only heard good things about them

I'm hooked on track days now hahaha

[benm]

brake ducting is a very cheap option

[dnissi]

i use motul rbf600. bleed before every track day, and on saturday arvo if you back up for the sunday

i use hawk ht10 for the track on a custom brake set up. i've tried ferodo ds3000 but were no where near as good.

if you're on standard rotors, ferodo ds2500 are a good compromise on price, performance and rotor/pad wear. may be a little dusty than what you use now tho

i also run brake ducting from the front bar and use air deflectors as well

the brakes work every corner, lap after lap

[Ruxis]

just wondering what a oil temp would be that would cause damage to your car?? mine was at to around 120 when i was really giving it.

although at wakie in december it didnt get over 110 which was alot hotter day!

could it be my coolant isnt as fresh as it was in dec??

defs getting an oil cooler before another day and only did 4 proper runs in my car, 1 where i was going for real PB breaking speed (pitty i didnt get someone to time the bastard haha, would of beaten it for sure!)

also, if i were to get serious about track days what would be more things to protect the whole car??? (mainly the engine)

[a20089]

also, if i were to get serious about track days what would be more things to protect the whole car??? (mainly the engine)

Good ideas include:

External oil cooler

Fresh fully synth oil, around 10w-50 rating

Overfill oil by 1/2 litre

Oil catch can plummed correctly

Monitor oil levels and pressure regularly

Baffeled sump

Extended sump

Dry sump

Rich tune (also gives you a flame thrower effect on those chasing you)

Monitor air fuel ratio's

Good brake pads like nismo. Stay away from EBC reds (personal opinion)

[Ruxis]

fair enough, well cooler and catch can would be on the list for the next one. i use royal purple 10-40, some very good tips there

for a rich tune id probably need a tune first lol.

i dont understand the sump things, i shall research

thanks for your reply

(i know i could go to another section but i figured there were alot of people on the day itd help a few guys out)

[levinboy]

i use motul rbf600. bleed before every track day, and on saturday arvo if you back up for the sunday

i use hawk ht10 for the track on a custom brake set up. i've tried ferodo ds3000 but were no where near as good.

if you're on standard rotors, ferodo ds2500 are a good compromise on price, performance and rotor/pad wear. may be a little dusty than what you use now tho

i also run brake ducting from the front bar and use air deflectors as well

the brakes work every corner, lap after lap

see thats what i think i missed, bleeding before the day!!

Only had the new rotors (project mu scr pro fronts, dba 4000 rears) braided lines and rbf600 installed last october but engine went 3weeks after so probably only 3000km on this setup

maybe moisture was absorbed as it sat waiting for the new engine who knows hahaha

Atleast i know how to be more prepared for the next track day

[JimmyRickard]

Anyone tried Hawk DT60's?

[Aggroman]

Good brake pads like nismo. Stay away from EBC reds (personal opinion)

yep fark those EBC pieces of shit..

im running endless CCR-G pads with Lucas/TRW Grand Prix 600 fluid on my new brembo's

Having ridden in the GTR that these came from I can tell you they stop like stink and will go all day everyday.. Did 4 or so sessions back to back in december

[MaTBoY]

Get an evo.

[benm]

front: EBC Red

rear: EBC Green

3 years old, done over 1,000 laps of Wakefield Park, pedal feels as good on the last lap as it does on the first lap and still only half worn

[Duncan]

Anyone tried Hawk DT60's?

Yes I have, and they were the best (ie most effective) race pads I have used, they are top notch.

Under the old race rules we had to run standard brakes, so I had to try heaps of different pads to find the ones that work best. I stopped looking after I tried the Hawk DT60.

Those are Hawk HT60 on the front....

I got mine from Matt at Race Brakes Sydney for a good price.

I understand Neil is also running these in his race car too.

[Aggroman]

Get an evo.

get a grip

[zebra]

Yes I have, and they were the best (ie most effective) race pads I have used, they are top notch.

Under the old race rules we had to run standard brakes, so I had to try heaps of different pads to find the ones that work best. I stopped looking after I tried the Hawk DT60.

Those are Hawk HT60 on the front....

I got mine from Matt at Race Brakes Sydney for a good price.

I understand Neil is also running these in his race car too.

But Neil drives to slow to makes sparks right?

LOL

[Duncan]

hmm i think the car is the problem there....but the good news is blown turbo means no more excuses to keep the standard one.

It will wake right up if it has more than 150rwkw.....

[zebra]

So Neil broke something

High flow it up

Make it chirp 2nd

[JimmyRickard]

Yes I have, and they were the best (ie most effective) race pads I have used, they are top notch.

Under the old race rules we had to run standard brakes, so I had to try heaps of different pads to find the ones that work best. I stopped looking after I tried the Hawk DT60.

Thanks for that Dunc, just spoke to Matt then he's getting me some prices. Would you put the same in the rears?

Cheers!

[siksII]

I use DTC-60s front and HT-10 rear for street and track. They will punish your rotors a bit and can be ridiculously noisy with street use but its too hard to accept the crap performance of street pads once you try these. I was previously using DS2500s and didnt want to go back to them after using the DTCs.

Im on to my second set now. I did some express bedding in before the NSCC track day on Sunday and they completely caught fire haha!!! Even when on fire they were working 100%

I have not tried race brakes however you might want to compare prices with http://www.hawkpadsdirect.com/ I get mine sent EMS for $260, last I checked in Sydney a couple of years ago another brake shop quoted me $430 hence choosing to buy from overseas.

Yes I have, and they were the best (ie most effective) race pads I have used, they are top notch.

Under the old race rules we had to run standard brakes, so I had to try heaps of different pads to find the ones that work best. I stopped looking after I tried the Hawk DT60.

Those are Hawk HT60 on the front....

I got mine from Matt at Race Brakes Sydney for a good price.

I understand Neil is also running these in his race car too.

[Duncan]

people almost always use the compound of the rear pad to even out inherant inbalances in the braking system. In my case I can't even remember what was in the rear, some pagids or sbs I guess, but they are much less aggressive.

In a reasonably standard skyline brake system I would put something less aggressive in the front. If you want to stay with hawk I would go HT-10.