R34 Gtt Swaybar Advice

[mystery_kid]

hey i'm going to be getting some swaybars for my r34 soon, just wondering which sizes i should look at.

The car is primarily street use, but i will be doint a few track days a year. It currently has tien super streets (came with the car, not sure if i am going to keep them) but they aren't too stiff which i guess what you want for track racing. i have put in rose jointed upper and traction arms in the rear and rose jointed upper arms and new bushed adjustable castor arms in the front

so i'm whiteline after sway bars, not quite sure what size to be heading for 27mm, 24mm etc

also just to confirm something for me, when you buy new whiteline front sway bars for r34 do they come with some kind of replacement links as they don't just use link bushes like the rear

thanks

[R32Abuser]

See this group buy which has since been closed - http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/88141-r34-gtt-bilstein-whiteline-suspension/page__hl__sydneykid

The Sway bar sizes are listed:

Front; BNF24X (or BNF24Z) - 24mm

Rear; BNR11X (or BNR11XZ) - 22mm

I personally haven't felt this setup, however from what I've heard (and having the R32 GTST sydneykid group buy in my car) the handling is supurb.

When you purchase these sway bars you receive new "D" bushes which are the bushes which clamp the sway bar to the car. Also included is a grease satchel for lubrication.

Aftermarket links can be purchased from Whiteline directly. Shoot "Daleo" a PM on here. He should be able to get you the items you need

Cheers,

David

[mystery_kid]

yeah that is pretty much where i was heading too, wasnt sure if 27mm front/24mm rear might have been the go

the front on the r34 isnt the same as the r32, it doesnt just use your standard individual link bushes. the front uses 1 linkage item, the rear uses the normal link bushes that you can replace

the only option on the whiteline site is to get an upgraded front link with ball joints

the rear has the option of the above, or just your normal link bushes

[34GeeTeeTee]

You need Sydney Kid to post here..... He supplied/recommended mine and i couldnt be happier!!!

27mm front and 24mm rear, both blade adjustable!!!

Best suspension upgrade you can do i reckon

[R32Abuser]

IIRC I think the difference in the links is whether you go blade adjustable or fixed.

Adjustable requires new links which are supplied. Fixed uses the standard links. I may be wrong, but that's what my experience showed and I was led to believe.

Either way, Id suggest going with the upgraded heavy duty links anyway. They remove any preload in the system and do aid slightly in making the car feel a little more settled on corner entry.

If those part numbers I gave you lined up with the ones on the website, grab a set and chuck them on...You won't be disappointed!

Edited April 26, 2012 by R32Abuser

[Daleo]

yeah that is pretty much where i was heading too, wasnt sure if 27mm front/24mm rear might have been the go

the front on the r34 isnt the same as the r32, it doesnt just use your standard individual link bushes. the front uses 1 linkage item, the rear uses the normal link bushes that you can replace

the only option on the whiteline site is to get an upgraded front link with ball joints

the rear has the option of the above, or just your normal link bushes

Hey mystery_kid;

All of the Whiteline bars come with everything needed to mount them; if they require a different link (which the blade adjustable bars do); it comes in the kit. Your front links will work with the blade adjustable bar ; I've fitted several sets to R34's without issue. The fixed position rear Whiteline bars retain the OEM link rod bush arrangement. The blade adjustable rears are different.

The upgraded ball jointed links are not mandatory; but with the age of the gear you're running there is a definite improvement to be had by upgrading. I can also supply OEM style replacement links if finances don't run to the Heavy Duty ones.

For a street driven car; the 27mm front bar is possibly a bit big; it's recommended for competition use only. I've had really good feedback from people using the 24mm front, 22mm rear; but it's a personal thing. A really heavy front bar will promote understeer, which is not ideal.

I am able do individual buys on any Whiteline Bars, or alignment products, if you're keen feel free to PM me; I've helped out stacks of people on this forum with bars.

Cheers, Dale.

Edited April 27, 2012 by Daleo

[Marcus89]

My r34 has 24/22mm swaybars in it does very well for drifting no issues with understeer. Not to sure on timeattack but feels to handle nicely

[boostn0199]

24 22 is a good combo that alot of ppl have used including myself and it performed well.

[mystery_kid]

thanks for input everyone, prob just go with 24 and 22mm

daleo pm'd

[KiwiRS4T]

Heavier is better. There is no degradation of ride quality. Balance between front and rear is important - I would go with SKs (or Dales) suggestions.

[34GeeTeeTee]

Hey mystery_kid;

All of the Whiteline bars come with everything needed to mount them; if they require a different link (which the blade adjustable bars do); it comes in the kit. Your front links will work with the blade adjustable bar ; I've fitted several sets to R34's without issue. The fixed position rear Whiteline bars retain the OEM link rod bush arrangement. The blade adjustable rears are different.

The upgraded ball jointed links are not mandatory; but with the age of the gear you're running there is a definite improvement to be had by upgrading. I can also supply OEM style replacement links if finances don't run to the Heavy Duty ones.

For a street driven car; the 27mm front bar is possibly a bit big; it's recommended for competition use only. I've had really good feedback from people using the 24mm front, 22mm rear; but it's a personal thing. A really heavy front bar will promote understeer, which is not ideal.

I am able do individual buys on any Whiteline Bars, or alignment products, if you're keen feel free to PM me; I've helped out stacks of people on this forum with bars.

Cheers, Dale.

Hey Dale,

The car drives better than it ever did, what difference would the softer bars have? The ones i fitted are set pretty neutral but isnt the point of the adjustable sets to be able to tune Under/Oversteer?

I'm no guru on this stuff, but always happy to learn... The car handles like its on rails when i have decent rubber on it

Cheers

Mat

[GTSBoy]

If you increase roll stiffness to really high levels, the car can become quite skaty in low grip situations - think instant understeer or 4 wheel slide in the wet sort of thing. It's just that the stiffness prevents the weigth transfer required to gain some grip in those conditions.

[34GeeTeeTee]

I guess the barge ass 34 has the weight in it to keep it fairly stable LOL

But have no complaints with the way it handled (Been a while since i've driven it though).... Plus it is set on a neutral setting, i guess if i adjused the bars up to full stiffness i would have the issue above?

[GTSBoy]

Unlikely. The difference in adjustment is tiny compared to the overall rate of the bar itself.

[vetter2769]

sorry to bump an old thread, today I attempted to instal my white line sway bars (24mm front 22mm rear) had no dramas with the rear that was easy, when I tried unbolting the fronts at the linkages I first rounded out a bolt, and quickly came to realise that those bolts weren't coming off unless i used a grinder, so got the grinder out and sheared them off.

also noticed that white line sway bars don't include after market linkages for their front bars, however they do for the rears, so Just make sure you get some aftermarket front linkages as the stock ones almost will certainly break as Ive heard many times before.

[hardsteppa]

Wait, you're not talking about the outer nut on the front linkage just turning around when you try to undo it, right? As in you need a 14mm spanner on the inner nut, to stop it turning.

[Daleo]

sorry to bump an old thread, today I attempted to instal my white line sway bars (24mm front 22mm rear) had no dramas with the rear that was easy, when I tried unbolting the fronts at the linkages I first rounded out a bolt, and quickly came to realise that those bolts weren't coming off unless i used a grinder, so got the grinder out and sheared them off.

also noticed that white line sway bars don't include after market linkages for their front bars, however they do for the rears, so Just make sure you get some aftermarket front linkages as the stock ones almost will certainly break as Ive heard many times before.

The rears come with new linkages to accommodate the change to a blade adjustable bar.

I've never had an issue removing the linkages on the front bar, and I've fitted at lest 10 sets of bars to R34 GT-t's.

If you buy the BNK010 kit from Whiteline; it actually comes with brand new links for both bars.

And it's miles cheaper than buying the bars individually.