Vipec V88 Vs Link G4 Extreme Wire In

[SS8_Gohan]

i thought we were comparing the wire-in ECU's? if so, both do low impedance injectors, so to the OP, no there is no difference in that regard. And i don't think e-throttle is going to be an issue for you, but i haven't checked if the xtreme can handle e-throttle.

[NZDRIFTER]

The board in the G4 Plug-in storm is the same as the board in the xtreme, but the g4 storm wire in ecu is different,and only has 4x injector drives,so if your running a G4 storm wire in on a 6 cylender then you can only run the injectors in batch fire.

[kitto]

Yes, keep it to the V88 and the Extreme. All others are useless to me.

No i dont need electronic throttle, i've deleted it on my NEO. Track control pfft, Load dependant boost control solves that issue.

I'm driving Xspurt injectors which are 12 ohms anyway. No problem there.

Guilt_Toy.

You tune both of these ECU's a lot by the sounds of it. A few questions.

What i'm doing is setting up my car so that the ECU reads all sensors, Fuel pressure, Boost Pressure, Oil Pressure x 2 (1x at the oil pump and 1x at the engines main gallery, Fuel Temperature, Oil Temperature, Coolant Temperature, IAT etc.

Now what i'm wanting to do is set up the ECU to switch on or off outputs depending on the above conditions versus another condition.

IE. RPM vs Oil Pressure (oil pump sensor) . If oil pressure is 25 psi or above @ 2,000 RPM, condition is normal. (I'll have several points mapped accross the rev range - IE 4,000RPM - 50psi oil pressure and so on). IF the oil pressure drops below its set point at given RPM then an output on the ECU will fire, enabling a warning lamp and the accusump's electronic valve (preventing oil starvation). Also if RPM is below 300RPM, the output is always on (For engine pre-lubing via the accusump).

The second oil pressure sensor will be the same as above, apart from the fact i'd have it switch a different output or cut the engine, or rev limit. Something along those lines.

Another setup i'll be doing is Boost pressure vs Fuel Pressure. Ratio will be 1:1, for instance if i have a boost pressure of 20PSI, i should have a fuel pressure of 63.5PSI, if the fuel pressure drops too far at this level i would like to have the ECU go into rich and retard. Can these both do rich and retard?

I'll also be doing a few other tricky bits and pieces, but these two are the big ones i want to get under way.

Can they both do above?

[STATUS]

Just to clear the air;

from the link website:

History:

Link was one of the very early market entrants twenty years ago. 2010 witnessed a turn-around in the market perception of the Link name thanks to the technical excellence of its product. The launch of the ViPEC brand has seen a new product pitched against high end competitors with outstanding results. Continued clear and unambiguous differentiation is further required to propel the ViPEC name higher

[Walk510]

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Just to clear the air;<br>

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<span style="color: #282828"><span style="font-family: Georgia,">from the link website:</span></span><br>

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<span style="font-family: Georgia,"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 10px;">History:<br>

Link was one of the very early market entrants twenty years ago. 2010 witnessed a turn-around in the market perception of the Link name thanks to the technical excellence of its product. The launch of the ViPEC brand has seen a new product pitched against high end competitors with outstanding results. Continued clear and unambiguous differentiation is further required to propel the ViPEC name higher</span></span></span><br>

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who is going to propel vipec to great heights now since ray has retired and dirtgarage is banned ?

Edited June 8, 2012 by Walk510

[R31Nismoid]

[Ryan1200]

Still laugh about how hard dirt pushed vipec thrashed the rest then ended up with the gold box anyway. I guess the superior idle didn't matter on a drag car after all. Anyone know if his rebuilt the mercury 34gtr 26 recently? Lol

Edited June 9, 2012 by Ryan1200

[kitto]

Stay on topic please.

[Ryan1200]

Sorry back on topic.

[Walk510]

kitto your only looking at one ecu really ! you might want to look at a motec m84 if you really want to compare ecu's

[kitto]

Lol, im not taking out a loan to buy a motec.

[KiwiRS4T]

Motec has been the ecu for many motorsport applications but the Link G4 Extreme is now being used by the new NZ Supertourer series:

http://www.linkecu.com/newsfromlink/v8-supertourers-are-go

[Walk510]

and the NZ series have lots of problems with there engines too !!

[kitto]

Unfortunately the motec comes with a rediculous price tag. Just not justifiable at all.

[Walk510]

The M84 is a versatile, race-bred ECU that is suitable for a broad range of high performance applications, including engines with up to 8 cylinders. It also suits rotary engines with twin, triple or quad rotors.

This new, entry level ECU is based on the advanced technology in MoTeC's benchmark M800, with a package of features to suit more moderate system requirements. It includes on-board Wideband Lambda plus 512 kB of data logging memory as standard.

Now with Nitrous Injection and 100 Hz max logging rate.

Install it as a stand-alone ECU or as part of a complete motorsport-ready engine management and data acquisition solution.

and about $2500

[KiwiRS4T]

and the NZ series have lots of problems with there engines too !!

Haven't seen any evidence of that. The Nelson built gearboxes have been failing though.

[wedge_r34gtr]

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who is going to propel vipec to great heights now since ray has retired and dirtgarage is banned ?

I'm sure Paul would love to continue his crusade if the mods would reinstate his account...hell, that la bumba idiot's been hit with the ban stick about half a dosen times and his still on here.

But i dont know the history and that decision is for the mods....now back on topic..

Yes, keep it to the V88 and the Extreme. All others are useless to me.

No i dont need electronic throttle, i've deleted it on my NEO. Track control pfft, Load dependant boost control solves that issue.

I'm driving Xspurt injectors which are 12 ohms anyway. No problem there.

Guilt_Toy.

You tune both of these ECU's a lot by the sounds of it. A few questions.

What i'm doing is setting up my car so that the ECU reads all sensors, Fuel pressure, Boost Pressure, Oil Pressure x 2 (1x at the oil pump and 1x at the engines main gallery, Fuel Temperature, Oil Temperature, Coolant Temperature, IAT etc.

Now what i'm wanting to do is set up the ECU to switch on or off outputs depending on the above conditions versus another condition.

IE. RPM vs Oil Pressure (oil pump sensor) . If oil pressure is 25 psi or above @ 2,000 RPM, condition is normal. (I'll have several points mapped accross the rev range - IE 4,000RPM - 50psi oil pressure and so on). IF the oil pressure drops below its set point at given RPM then an output on the ECU will fire, enabling a warning lamp and the accusump's electronic valve (preventing oil starvation). Also if RPM is below 300RPM, the output is always on (For engine pre-lubing via the accusump).

The second oil pressure sensor will be the same as above, apart from the fact i'd have it switch a different output or cut the engine, or rev limit. Something along those lines.

Another setup i'll be doing is Boost pressure vs Fuel Pressure. Ratio will be 1:1, for instance if i have a boost pressure of 20PSI, i should have a fuel pressure of 63.5PSI, if the fuel pressure drops too far at this level i would like to have the ECU go into rich and retard. Can these both do rich and retard?

I'll also be doing a few other tricky bits and pieces, but these two are the big ones i want to get under way.

Can they both do above?

Interesting ideas. If this can be set-up, i'm sure guilt toy knows how to do it, but have you spoken to your tuner directly as to whether they are confident to do it?

Also, have you considered the haltech - from memory it has accepts all of those inputs, although its a little pricey aswell.

Edited June 9, 2012 by wedge_r34gtr

[kitto]

Huh, Paul from Red R Racing (swiper the fox) has been banned on here? What the??

Haltech, meh, my tuner says they are limited with what they can do, limited inputs and outputs.

He said for what i want to do, they are too limited and not configurable enough.

[SS8_Gohan]

? some of the Haltech ecu's are great pieces of kit, not much in between the directly comparable Haltechs and Links

[KiwiRS4T]

What i'm doing is setting up my car so that the ECU reads all sensors, Fuel pressure, Boost Pressure, Oil Pressure x 2 (1x at the oil pump and 1x at the engines main gallery, Fuel Temperature, Oil Temperature, Coolant Temperature, IAT etc.

Now what i'm wanting to do is set up the ECU to switch on or off outputs depending on the above conditions versus another condition.

IE. RPM vs Oil Pressure (oil pump sensor) . If oil pressure is 25 psi or above @ 2,000 RPM, condition is normal. (I'll have several points mapped accross the rev range - IE 4,000RPM - 50psi oil pressure and so on). IF the oil pressure drops below its set point at given RPM then an output on the ECU will fire, enabling a warning lamp and the accusump's electronic valve (preventing oil starvation). Also if RPM is below 300RPM, the output is always on (For engine pre-lubing via the accusump).

The second oil pressure sensor will be the same as above, apart from the fact i'd have it switch a different output or cut the engine, or rev limit. Something along those lines.

Another setup i'll be doing is Boost pressure vs Fuel Pressure. Ratio will be 1:1, for instance if i have a boost pressure of 20PSI, i should have a fuel pressure of 63.5PSI, if the fuel pressure drops too far at this level i would like to have the ECU go into rich and retard. Can these both do rich and retard?

I'll also be doing a few other tricky bits and pieces, but these two are the big ones i want to get under way.

Can they both do above?

A few of the track RB30s have the Link watching for lack of oil pressure. I bought a high quality 0-150 psi pressure sensor from Rips (they are widely available) and my G4 will be loaded with minimum oil pressures for each gear and cut the engine if they are not maintained. There was a video on U tube of a GTST with an RB30 and you could hear it stuttering at a couple of points at Hampton Downs as the oil surges away from the pickup. No doubt it can be made to switch an accusump. My plug in G4 has spare inputs - The wire in Extreme will have more as well as more computing power.