N1??? Whats it got

[Targa Tom]

Can all the Nissan followers please advise me the difference between GTR and V-Spec/ N1 is as far as components. (for R32 and or R33)

The main question is do I have to by a V Spec or can it be replicated...

Thanks Guys

TT

[T0nyGTSt]

I know where you're going with this.

If there were only 228 N1 R32 GT-R's made, how come they all turn up at some motorsport events?

In practice, one can build a car to better than N1 spec for strict motorsport regs. but it will never have that unique Nissan N1 build plate.

T.

[gtrken]

Tom , contact Warwick Freemantle.

He has the R32GTR N1 spec that is approved for Targa .

Some of the mods are enlargened sump ( use trust extension)

17x8 wheels

Oil cooler

Aircon delete

Nismo style 580 or 581 type turbo's

plus other stuff I can't remember.

PM me if you want further details

Cheers

Ken

[Targa Tom]

Thanks Ken,

Sorry to see the boys parked on Arrowsmith. Talking with Doug over a bottle of champers at midnight and he seems keen to finish the business.

No Tony, I dont care if they are genuine or not... I'm just trying to work out the most cost effective way to get one! After passing quite a few 4wds in the last couple of years, I am beginning to wonder If I will be slower in the bigger heavier car - or the added grip off the turns will give me a 1/2 second / kilometer...

Only one way to find out.

TT

[PHaT MR30]

hmm is it true that N1's have better built engines, and forged internals? or is that a myth?

[Duncan]

Yes, n1 has different pistons and block as well.

It would be great to post up the R32 n1 specs if possible, there are a few on here that it would help.

TT, I'm building my r32 gtr to n1 spec piece at a time for production touring car racing.

[JAS-25T]

i have some n1 racing wheels here for sale if anyonewants them

they are 17x8 inch

[T0nyGTSt]

N1 has a better block. Ribbed for your pleasure.

N1 pistons are different but it's all a much in a muchness since they are all cast.

I would say that your could get yourself an N1 block and fill it full of Arias forged, Carillo rods, Tomei crank, composite gasket, Nismo 581 turbines, FC management and how da fark would they know???

Or am I taking an unfair advantage?

T.

[Targa Tom]

All the go fast bits, not needed for TT. Just reliablility & a good handling/brakes package. Things that help like exhaust size are covered in the rules and easy policed. Brakes, Wheel Size, and Added oil reserve + cooler however are the things I will include. Looking for about 7.5+rwkw/kg and that will do me!

And yes Duncan, a spec sheet would be great to sort thr sh1t from the clay.

TT

[Guest Variable]

Hi Tom,

Have a look here:

http://www.mirageautosports.com/GTR/r32dif...ifferences.html

It has all of the changes the R32 went through over the years.

Hope it helps

[Duncan]

Actually we have decided to stick with stock engine atm anyway, given everything else like injectors is stock we aren't exactly stressing it out with high revs....

Thanks for that link Robocop, that clarifies where the 245 tyres come from, and that v spec/n1 did not have cross-drilled rotors if I read it correctly.

Still lots of other things it would be great to clarify if anyone has further info

Unfortunately CAMS are unable to provide a set of N1 homologation papers, the only thing ever homologated here was the Group A GTR which is not really relevent. Its a bit of a hot topic in NSW combined touring car racing since (suprisingly) the commodores and falcons are having their arses firmly kicked

[Roy]

Only one way to find out.

TT

NO!... stick with the GTST, could not honetly say if its a case of pushing sh1t up hill using a 2L, 1250kg, RWD car for motorsport...but i need to believe the GTST can get the job done :Oops:

I love GTRs, but i have only been in one car that made me think they are the way to go (TrustGTRs car)... but i think 300kgs weight difference is a big step backward before beign able to go forwards...then again i have driven an R33 GTST with a 2530 and i think it would have have the measure of a lot of GTRs on a circuit, but circuits a fair bit different to a tarmac rally event i suppose

How did the older GTRs do in the Targa, in their class did they finish well? Was speaking to a guy that ran a GT3 this year, he said the copnditions this year made it very hard for RWD cars, something like only 7 of the 18 GT3s entered finished, and 5 were written off (number sound about right do they?)

Considering i was reading an article on the release and subsequent comparison of the R33 GTR and VR GTSR Commodore, on on the tight twist, hilly roads, the GTSR was showing a clean pair of heels to the R33 because of the punch out of corners, and quick blats in gear. As soon as the orads became a little more flowing and high speed the GTR demolished the GTSR... dont know how reliable/independant the Australian journalsist were that wrote the article... ramble, ram,ble, ramble, i make no more sense behind a keyboard then i do in person :Oops:

[Jamezilla]

Isn't the main reason every GTR in a road-event is an 'N1' so they can run steel-blade turbos?

Gary (R32Impul) has a genuine R32 GTR N1 fi you want to ask him specifics.

There was an HPI article about it a while back too - but it was for the R33.

[Targa Tom]

And I reckon Skyd would shreik in horror hearing I was considering jumping on the band wagon...

After Targa there is a huge let down, specially if you crash or DNF. In our case we put together a really good package, and I parked it against the bank.

Fact is I was having a red hot go because I was trying to be in the top 10 come end of day one... Car 814 (A Subaru AWD) was 28 seconds slower than me on Devonport (15ks We did 8:05) That same 4wd took 36 seconds off us in the Arrowsmith (47ks) in Wet slippery conditions.

The leading R32 was th Donut King entry of Alford and Best 13th o'all...

The advantage of the 4WD (any brand) is off the slow turns, where they can employ the point and shoot approach, our little girl is all about corner speed and we just cant get to the next turn as quick as them...

Anyhow we will try to sell and if not gone before August... we will saddle up again in 05. (My self mutilation is coming to an end) Maybe with an even better package.

The N1 specs allow 17" tyres, hence bigger brakes and a couple of other TT prerquisits. Steel turbines would be nice but not the be-all...

For you Roy... - HERE!!