S A U N S W - Texi Wrap Up Thread

[luke gtr]

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[Cassbo]

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Hmmm... Works for me...

I'll be dumping all my photos onto Flickr when I have processed everything, if you can't access that, you fail at the interwebs!

[Yo-Yo]

Plastic cone + hot exhaust =

Cones... the hi-vis invisible victims of texi

[BakemonoRicer]

Plastic cone + hot exhaust =

Looks like an orange marshmellow.

Glad I didn't take the S15 to the texi and break something. Do not have the money for repairs as just have bought HKS hipermax III coilovers, Ikeya formula rear camber arms, ikeya formula castor rods, ikeya formula toe arms. Have to pay shipping still so kind of broke atm.

Bought the semi-slicks (kumho ecsta xs 225/50/16R) and 1kg ABE fire extinguisher (havent got the bill for these yet) so hopefully theyll be installed by the time the track day comes around on the 25th. Going to mount the fire extinguisher on the passenger side near the centre console. Was thinking in front of my seat but then thought against it as my mum sometimes uses the car.

Anyway, as for the texi do you guys think the short runs actually put more strain on the engine and driveline to the sort of stop start nature of the texi? I mean, youd be braking at the texi a lot more than the track right so more wear and tear on brakes? It seems a lot of peoples cars have failed whose I didnt think would fail considering the build quality (e.g. matts 370rwkw r34 and lukes r32 gtr). Still looked like an awesomely fun day though.

So in saying that...I think wakefield might be a tad more easy on the S15 due to the fact I'll be going flat out most of the way around and staying in a power band if that makes sense? E.g being in 2nd/3rd gear most of the way around except for the straight. But I'm still worried about going to wakefield in case of mechanical failure as I do not have the tools or the know-how to fix anything on the day.

[GoldZilla]

Benji, you don't have to tell us EVERYTHING you do, we don't really need a play-by-play. For instance, you could have just said:

Glad I didn't take the S15 to the texi and break something. Do not have the money for repairs as I just bought some new parts...

See? So much easier, and people will stop looking at you as if you're bragging and attention-seeking...

Anyway, as for the texi do you guys think the short runs actually put more strain on the engine and driveline to the sort of stop start nature of the texi? I mean, youd be braking at the texi a lot more than the track right so more wear and tear on brakes? It seems a lot of peoples cars have failed whose I didnt think would fail considering the build quality (e.g. matts 370rwkw r34 and lukes r32 gtr). Still looked like an awesomely fun day though.

So in saying that...I think wakefield might be a tad more easy on the S15 due to the fact I'll be going flat out most of the way around and staying in a power band if that makes sense? E.g being in 2nd/3rd gear most of the way around except for the straight. But I'm still worried about going to wakefield in case of mechanical failure as I do not have the tools or the know-how to fix anything on the day.

The main worry would be that your engine might be under more strain, but only if you don't give the oil time to warm up before you go out on your run. Just fire it up and let it idle for at least a good 5-10mins before you go on.

The g-forces would *probably* be similar between Texi and a track day, so always make sure you have enough oil in your engine - it's advisable to add an extra litre before you go out. Too little oil (or starvation from oil not being in the right parts of the engine) is what kills them.

As for braking, you're doing much lower speeds at Texi, it's mostly 1st and 2nd gear stuff.

[BakemonoRicer]

Benji, you don't have to tell us EVERYTHING you do, we don't really need a play-by-play. For instance, you could have just said:

See? So much easier, and people will stop looking at you as if you're bragging and attention-seeking...

The main worry would be that your engine might be under more strain, but only if you don't give the oil time to warm up before you go out on your run. Just fire it up and let it idle for at least a good 5-10mins before you go on.

The g-forces would *probably* be similar between Texi and a track day, so always make sure you have enough oil in your engine - it's advisable to add an extra litre before you go out. Too little oil (or starvation from oil not being in the right parts of the engine) is what kills them.

As for braking, you're doing much lower speeds at Texi, it's mostly 1st and 2nd gear stuff.

Yeah dude so true, I unintentionally end up rambling. Its the same when it comes to me making decisions, takes me about 10 x longer than a normal person to make a decision on something. Then when I make the decision I am usually unsure whether I've made the right choice. Something i need to grow out of really.

As for the engine strain...very valid points. I agree. I was hesistant of bringing the s15 to the texi mainly due to the oil reason, as an inherent problem with the sr20det is that oil starvation can occur most often due to the design of oil pan as it doesnt hold enough oil and can result in drop in oil pressure etc etc then the engine sh*ts itself.

EDIT: probs time for me to stay out of the thread now, dont want to derail it.

[34GeeTeeTee]

Benji =

I don't have 370kw ya nut! AND the car had been off the road for 2 years, literally just tuned and I had no idea how to drive it, so coilovers failing after sitting for so long = fair enough, BOV not staying on = poor workmanship, and the bad fuel = nothing to do with build quality, just storage issues.... So really there is nothing wrong with the build, just a few issues on its first outing... I now know what to fix....

Tell your mum to drive at Texi!!

[oweban]

I think another thing with Texi is you're not getting the free-flow air into your intercooler that you would on a track; might account for it. But also on a track you're going up and down the revs, but when you hit a skid you bounce off 7k

At least I was for a bit... heh.

[34GeeTeeTee]

7.8k

[Pezhead]

Benji, a track day is a lot harder on your car. Oil control, water temps, brake temps all see a lot more stressful conditions than Texi. What is straining on Texi's is just the guys that like to sit on the rev limiter doing burn outs (bouncing the limiter is hard on the engine). Limiter bashing will kill any motor, period. And you can't expect to make lots of power without breaking something from time to time - the two go hand in hand.

For reference my car has been going to Texi's and track days for 5 years I've owned it and aside from the occasional technical glitch mine is still mechanically sound @ 300 KW. Regular maintenance, oil changes for track days and taking your time to do things right on your car pay off (and not abusing the living hell out of it). But ask anyone, I do not "take it easy" at a texi. My car see 7k launches all day long. I just prefer to drive for times rather than lots smoke, but I do still enjoy the full on 4wd slide.

Track days also keep your turbo pressures spooled up longer so if your car is prone to issues from that (like heat, cooler piping joints, etc) then that is where you have dramas. I thought that a few of us recommended staying away from suspension and power mods until you get used to your car, but obviously the mod bug has bitten.

I would have recommended a larger radiator, oil cooler and proper oil & temp gauges before any other mods go on the car. Making sure your car operates within safe levels is the first rule of longevity. I'd also recommend an oil temp gauge in addition to a proper water temp. Turbo cars are hard on oil - that starts to break down around 120c. When my car hits that temp (usually only around 5-6 laps at wakefield) then I do a cool down lap and come in.

My 2 cents.

[Ruxis]

Texi max speed=100 max?

Wakie top speed=180 (for me, slow)

You can figure it out.

P.s don't let me in your group if your in second gear at Wakie haha.

[Bodella]

So is there a video of the rolla at the end? I want to see what it was like from the outside.

[D_I_F]

Lol @ bengi thinking he's going to be going flat out at wakie. It's not a fast track it's a technical track I give him half way before he comes off... Lmfao..

[D_I_F]

Benji, a track day is a lot harder on your car. Oil control, water temps, brake temps all see a lot more stressful conditions than Texi. What is straining on Texi's is just the guys that like to sit on the rev limiter doing burn outs (bouncing the limiter is hard on the engine). Limiter bashing will kill any motor, period. And you can't expect to make lots of power without breaking something from time to time - the two go hand in hand.

For reference my car has been going to Texi's and track days for 5 years I've owned it and aside from the occasional technical glitch mine is still mechanically sound @ 300 KW. Regular maintenance, oil changes for track days and taking your time to do things right on your car pay off (and not abusing the living hell out of it). But ask anyone, I do not "take it easy" at a texi. My car see 7k launches all day long. I just prefer to drive for times rather than lots smoke, but I do still enjoy the full on 4wd slide.

Track days also keep your turbo pressures spooled up longer so if your car is prone to issues from that (like heat, cooler piping joints, etc) then that is where you have dramas. I thought that a few of us recommended staying away from suspension and power mods until you get used to your car, but obviously the mod bug has bitten.

I would have recommended a larger radiator, oil cooler and proper oil & temp gauges before any other mods go on the car. Making sure your car operates within safe levels is the first rule of longevity. I'd also recommend an oil temp gauge in addition to a proper water temp. Turbo cars are hard on oil - that starts to break down around 120c. When my car hits that temp (usually only around 5-6 laps at wakefield) then I do a cool down lap and come in.

My 2 cents.

Ah Eric it's too hard to teach sic boys this kinda stuff.. All they think about is powah.. All we worry about is suspension/cooling etc..

[oweban]

So no point in making an effort then?

[BakemonoRicer]

Benji, a track day is a lot harder on your car. Oil control, water temps, brake temps all see a lot more stressful conditions than Texi. What is straining on Texi's is just the guys that like to sit on the rev limiter doing burn outs (bouncing the limiter is hard on the engine). Limiter bashing will kill any motor, period. And you can't expect to make lots of power without breaking something from time to time - the two go hand in hand.

For reference my car has been going to Texi's and track days for 5 years I've owned it and aside from the occasional technical glitch mine is still mechanically sound @ 300 KW. Regular maintenance, oil changes for track days and taking your time to do things right on your car pay off (and not abusing the living hell out of it). But ask anyone, I do not "take it easy" at a texi. My car see 7k launches all day long. I just prefer to drive for times rather than lots smoke, but I do still enjoy the full on 4wd slide.

Track days also keep your turbo pressures spooled up longer so if your car is prone to issues from that (like heat, cooler piping joints, etc) then that is where you have dramas. I thought that a few of us recommended staying away from suspension and power mods until you get used to your car, but obviously the mod bug has bitten.

I would have recommended a larger radiator, oil cooler and proper oil & temp gauges before any other mods go on the car. Making sure your car operates within safe levels is the first rule of longevity. I'd also recommend an oil temp gauge in addition to a proper water temp. Turbo cars are hard on oil - that starts to break down around 120c. When my car hits that temp (usually only around 5-6 laps at wakefield) then I do a cool down lap and come in.

My 2 cents.

Ahh I see. Well when I get the money next thing on the to do list will be the oil temp/water temp gauges, oil cooler & filter relocation kit, radiator and the upgraded tomei n2 oil pan. Really think I need to upgrade the exhaust system as well...will gain a few psi of boost if I do that.

As for the mod bug, went ahead with ordering the suspension parts as the struts are leaking and the springs do not match the struts very well. Also, the wheel alignment is hard to set up without the aftermarket arms. Going to the track day with the car completely stock though except for the semi slicks (hope the stock exhaust doesnt give me any problem due to restriction). Will do a cool down lap for sure, and leave the engine idling for a good 5-10 mins after I come off the track just to let everything cool.

Ah Eric it's too hard to teach sic boys this kinda stuff.. All they think about is powah.. All we worry about is suspension/cooling etc..

Yeah don't worry I listen to what Eric says as he knows what he is talking about, I haven't done any power modifications yet. I was thinking of upgrading the exhaust system but I dont have the money at the moment (this was only to try help the engine breath better as there is wayyyy too much backpressure with the stock system). With the S15, my main aim is response, handling and long life for the car.

[oweban]

Andy, where's the videos????

tomei n2 oil pan.

had no idea what you were on about, turns out tomei call sumps oil pans? Or am I just retarded

Would your car really need a larger oil pan/sump? Might be a shitload of money for minimal gain... Could be spent on that exhaust instead Happy to be proven wrong on this, sif I know anything about SR20s (or engines for that matter)

[Liz]

Ah Eric it's too hard to teach sic boys this kinda stuff.. All they think about is powah.. All we worry about is suspension/cooling etc..

calm down racer girl... we weren't all born experts like yourself!

[Liz]

Ahh I see. Well when I get the money next thing on the to do list will be the oil temp/water temp gauges, oil cooler & filter relocation kit, radiator and the upgraded tomei n2 oil pan. Really think I need to upgrade the exhaust system as well...will gain a few psi of boost if I do that.

As for the mod bug, went ahead with ordering the suspension parts as the struts are leaking and the springs do not match the struts very well. Also, the wheel alignment is hard to set up without the aftermarket arms. Going to the track day with the car completely stock though except for the semi slicks (hope the stock exhaust doesnt give me any problem due to restriction). Will do a cool down lap for sure, and leave the engine idling for a good 5-10 mins after I come off the track just to let everything cool.

Yeah don't worry I listen to what Eric says as he knows what he is talking about, I haven't done any power modifications yet. I was thinking of upgrading the exhaust system but I dont have the money at the moment (this was only to try help the engine breath better as there is wayyyy too much backpressure with the stock system). With the S15, my main aim is response, handling and long life for the car.

dude, just get out there and drive it

there is no need for those mods for a few fun days out and about and then you can decide where to next!

says she who just spent 10k on mods for a car that has seen one track day in 2 years! lol

[ScarecrowX7]

So is there a video of the rolla at the end? I want to see what it was like from the outside.

You and me Both!