Jump to content
SAU Community

Anyone Driving A Turbo Under New P Plate Law's ?

Na boy

By Na boy,
in Queensland

 Share

Recommended Posts

The Dan Grand Master

The Dan

Posted
Posted

And the worst part is the government have completely overlooked what types of vehicles they are restricting.

R32 GTST - capable of 0-100 in approx 8 seconds

R33 GTST - capable of 0-100 in approx 8 seconds

Both have a top factory speed of 180km/hr (fast enough to kill a group of cyclists)

The 32 is appropriately braked for the weight of the car and the power of the engine but has no ABS or airbags

The 33 is not allowed but it comes with ABS and airbags - clearly not the safer option for our youth

Now I hear they are thinking of reducing the speed limit in some zones to 30km/hr. How many people are being hit in these f**king 40-50km zones that they need to reduce it further? Are we talking about the 5% of bad drivers that speed through these zones or the rest of us who get caught doing 5km over? Do we have to start firebombing some parliament houses so these f**kheads get a clue of what the real issues are?

1. Inattentiveness

2. Lack of skill or control

3. Unaware of current road rules

yes I said bomb. Bombbombabombbombbombabomb

Link to comment
Share on other sites
t5iv Grand Master

t5iv

Posted
Posted (edited)

And the worst part is the government have completely overlooked what types of vehicles they are restricting.

R32 GTST - capable of 0-100 in approx 8 seconds

R33 GTST - capable of 0-100 in approx 8 seconds

Both have a top factory speed of 180km/hr (fast enough to kill a group of cyclists)

The 32 is appropriately braked for the weight of the car and the power of the engine but has no ABS or airbags

The 33 is not allowed but it comes with ABS and airbags - clearly not the safer option for our youth

Now I hear they are thinking of reducing the speed limit in some zones to 30km/hr. How many people are being hit in these f**king 40-50km zones that they need to reduce it further? Are we talking about the 5% of bad drivers that speed through these zones or the rest of us who get caught doing 5km over? Do we have to start firebombing some parliament houses so these f**kheads get a clue of what the real issues are?

1. Inattentiveness

2. Lack of skill or control

3. Unaware of current road rules

yes I said bomb. Bombbombabombbombbombabomb

I reckon that more mums in 4bys are running over kids in 40 zones due to inattentiveness or the fact that they don't like kids than performance vehicle owners. Seriously, how many people can drive through a school zone at above 60ks when there is that much traffic!!

Agree mate, inattentiveness is the primary cause here? What difference does going from 40 to 30 really make on braking distance? 5m?!

Edit: Why don't they just make a list of cars that you can't drive and evaluate each car on its merits?

Edited by Tony350
Link to comment
Share on other sites
some.will.seek Contributor

some.will.seek

Posted
Posted

I'm driving a 180sx right now on my green P's. Applied for that new exemption the day after it came out! :) I went and got it weighed at a station (normal curb weight is 1220kg and 153kw).. but they got me as 1280kg.. and that took me down to 117kw per tonne. Of course this didn't take into factor my exhaust and at the time, fmic. Which would have put me over the limit.. but I got rid of the fmic (didn't want it to cause any problems in the long run).

So, it is possible. And you don't need a reason! Only been pulled over twice. One didn't even ask me for my exemption, the other did, and looked at it very puzzled. I got a defect, but no other issues there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
some.will.seek Contributor

some.will.seek

Posted
Posted

You don't need to get it 'checked'. Just prove that the weight and power are both under 125kw. The problem with s13's is that there is no 'official' documentation proving that the car is under.. so I had a look at some old driver's manuals and also got it weighed. Seemed to work. Just obviously remember that regardless of anything, P platers are NOT allowed anything requiring mod plates.. so as long as you don't get your exemption and then throw another engine in there or something stupid.. you'll be fine.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mhy33 Enthusiast

Mhy33

Posted
Posted

You don't need to get it 'checked'. Just prove that the weight and power are both under 125kw. The problem with s13's is that there is no 'official' documentation proving that the car is under.. so I had a look at some old driver's manuals and also got it weighed. Seemed to work. Just obviously remember that regardless of anything, P platers are NOT allowed anything requiring mod plates.. so as long as you don't get your exemption and then throw another engine in there or something stupid.. you'll be fine.

Aww ok well im driving a r33 with just an exhaust thats all..

Link to comment
Share on other sites
some.will.seek Contributor

some.will.seek

Posted
Posted

Ahh yes. Well, I have an exhaust too. Don't think you need a mod plate for those in the first place. It's never caused any issues ;)

On the other hand.. I'm pretty 33's are ruled out for being too powerful aren't they..?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Lithium
      Boost level and torque curve

      By Lithium · Posted

      As someone who has been playing with turbo things for some time now, be prepared for this to not be the first time feeling this way    I'm busy as atm, but if no one else covers the things I'm realising are worth mentioning to you then I will when I have a chance as it seems like I overestimated your knowledge on how turbos and wastegates work.  Otherwise I recommend having a look around how wastegates and boost control work, really anything on understanding the general mechanism of boost control as it will help you find the answers to the questions you're looking for.  Your initial question jumps some fundamentals.
    • thx78
      Boost level and torque curve

      By thx78 · Posted

      I don't understand anything anymore.
    • thx78
      Boost level and torque curve

      By thx78 · Posted

      so this is an anomaly??? I thought it was a voluntary increase
    • Duncan
      Boost level and torque curve

      By Duncan · Posted

      we can only guess exactly what happened from our keyboards, but to me it looks like they were targeting 27 but the wastegate was too small or poorly controlled and the boost crept up, that is quite common
    • Lithium
      Boost level and torque curve

      By Lithium · Posted

      Good points!  Took those for granted - though I *did* actually give an example of winding boost up more than it had been before where I wasn't actually specifically looking for more peak power.  The Toyota Starlet dyno plot that I shared and mentioned showed an overlay from the previous tune it had and the one I'd redone, I left the boost targetting the same as the old tune but then after peak power I ramped boost up by a good 5psi or so over what the old tune had at the same rpm. The reason I felt comfortable with this (though the owner of the car had a "are you sure?" moment when I suggested it) is that the setup wasn't turbo limited, it was largely head sealing limited and the owner was a bit concerned as for the last few seasons he'd had issues with head lifting - sometimes not completing an event without having some headgasket issue, so he didn't want to run any more boost than it was. The reasons I was ok with raising the boost a good 5+psi MORE than that was that I left it where it was in the middle, and only increased it where VE (and therefore cylinder pressure vs psi) were dropping hard and I didn't stop the torque from dropping, just reduced the drop.  Well, there is that and the fact that the previous tuner had it overtimed by near 7degrees at peak torque - but that's another story haha.    I didn't really go into detail about that "turning it up more" thing but now you've mentioned the "not detuning", sometimes the boost *can* be turned up higher than you'd expect if the setup allows for it and you do it smartly.  I've tuned things to run 30psi on BP98 "safely" that a few years ago (or still?) people would cry that it was a stupid idea - but given they were well intercooled, low EMAP turbos and only doing that kind of boost where VE is dropping etc I was pretty confident it wasn't as cowboy as it sounded at face value and we never ended up with issues as a result of it.     
×
×
  • Create New...