Why Do We Pay People To Do Work?

[lovelessnator]

As the title stats "why do we pay people for there work" ?

Lucky for me I havnt payed for the work but the previous owner did and the work was done at very well known performance shop!

So a few days ago my exhaust gasket gave way at cylinder 1 and 6 so being handy with my Hands I decide to put a new one in:) my car has a high mount 35/40, 3.5inch dump, ex gate an so forth..

This is where it gets interesting:) to be able to get the manifold off the exhaust studs the dump pipe needed to be takin off from the rear housing and the turbo takin off the manifold because the exhaust studs are too long to slide it off due to the turbo hitting the strut tower!

Now that everything is off and out I can now see the doggy work the shop has performed:/ here's what I found..

2 manifold studs missing

Only 3 nuts where tightend on the WHOLE manifold

1 manifold stud almost rattled out by itself

Only 2 nuts tightened up holding the turbo to manifold lol the other 2 I could move with my fingers!

Barely any gasket sealer on the manifold gasket

No gasket sealer on the turbo to manifold gasket

No gasket sealer on the rear housing gasket to dump pipe

Dump pipe bolts very loose

Ex gate bolts very loose..

So now since its all apart I may as well do it PROPERLY and put new studs in new gaskets, seal it all properly and torque everything down to specs as it should be.

I also decide whilst the dump pipe is off I'll heat wrap it and the manifold to. This has led me to MORE of there not so good work so to speak:)

The dump pipe has been welded in section of 3.5inch tube but the welds fall short by 10-15mm of going right the way around an you can see its been leaking quiet abit! Also where they have plumbed the ex gate back into the dump pipe it's only been half welded off and is also leaking:/

Lastly:) I've always had a strange rattle at idle coming from the dump pipe ( you can hear it with your ear to the pipe ) and always wondered what it was, well now I no:) when they welded the internal gate closed they actually welded it off on the out side of the turbo ( where the actuator hand would normally connect to ) an the flap was vibrating on the rear housing of the turbo because it doesn't have any load to hold it shut anymore:)

So out with the welder an buzz over the dump pipe and tack the gate flap closed:)

At the end of the day I suppose I'm having a winge but why do we pay people to give us such crap in return?? I could never do that to a paying costumer!

Has anyone else experienced such workmanship?

[battery]

Barely any gasket sealer on the manifold gasket

No gasket sealer on the turbo to manifold gasket

No gasket sealer on the rear housing gasket to dump pipe

You should not be using sealer on any of those parts...

Loose bolts is pretty standard unless you have something in place to prevent, i.e locking tabs, locking nuts etc.. you should really do a once over every now and then.

agreed workshop sounds dodgy and I have never had work done that i was happy with hence why I do it all myself..

[lovelessnator]

How come you shouldn't seal them gaskets?

[battery]

How come you shouldn't seal them gaskets?

Massive heat in those areas, the sealer stuff just dries out and turns to dust which usuallly results in a leak... If all your flange faces are flat(check with straight edge) then the gaskets will seal fine.

[lovelessnator]

I wonderd what gasket sealer does when it exceeds it's heat range lol my thoughts were, well it couldn't hurt to put some on there but now I no not to:) cheers

[mad082]

loose bolts: well that's normal. engines vibrate and nuts/bolts may come loose, especially if they weren't checked after a day or 2 of driving after installing new parts (things can sometimes settle into place and bolts/nuts need to be re-tightened), especially when talking about exhausts where the metal heats and cools (and therefore expands and contracts)

as for the dodgy welding jobs, are you sure they were actually done by the workshop in question and not by the previous owner or one of his mates?

it's not really worth complaining unless a: you know for sure it was a workshop's dodgy work, and b: you were the one who paid for the work.

[lovelessnator]

as for the dodgy welding jobs, are you sure they were actually done by the workshop in question and not by the previous owner or one of his mates?

it's not really worth complaining unless a: you know for sure it was a workshop's dodgy work, and b: you were the one who paid for the work.

I'm sure mate:) the car had just been built with all receipts provided, I also went down an spoke in person with the people involved in the build and one again they showed me the file on there compute to back it all up..

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