Need Help - asap

[LaL]

Well,

i was putting cam gears intoday and i dropped one of those little washers from the clear timing cover rubber seal ( i just dropped one of the metal washers ) into the bottom of my Timing belt.. will this do any damage to my car. i cant seem to get it out since it just fell right in. where the belt goes all the way down. wouldve it somehow fell down onto the tray at the bottom of the car ? im scared to turn on the car now since it might somehow get jammed..

Somoone please help me . any sorta metal picking up things . i cant visually see it but im 99% sure its in there unless it somehow goes onto the tray then its allright.

[Jamezilla]

How big is the gap it fell down?

Can you get a magnetic-tip screwdriver down there?

[crooser]

sounds risky

you can buy an extendable magnet thingy - looks like a radio arial with a powerfull little magnet on the end. this will reach unless its obstructed.

good luck

[LaL]

OMG! i cant explain it. i dont think anything can go there. the washer is BRASS ?

you know where the belt goes i removed it to fiddle around with the cam gears etc and i was playing around with the rubber and one of the washers fell out.

does it mean my timing is out now ?

Also there is like 2 wheels on each side at the bottom thats where it fell i cant actually see it. i was curious if that area was sealed ( so that means it would be stuck in there ) or if it was open so that would mean its on the bottom where the tray for changing oil etc is... dont wanna even bother turning it on! 1 little washer.. pissing me off man!

[LaL]

ANYONE ? sydneykid might know what im talking about ?

well where the cam timing belt goes. down the bottom. is that area sealed off ? or should i just get a hose and poar some water and try make it fall down. if it falls that will tell me its not closed off etc.

DOES ANYON KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!! THIS IS A GT-R and i cant risk anything here LOL

[TasR.X]

if by this:

or if it was open so that would mean its on the bottom where the tray for changing oil etc is...

you mean the sump, then is it that hard to remove the sump on your car and clean it out so you can see wether or not its fallen into the sump?. or if the washer is small enough it might come out the sump plug hole if your very lucky.

before you do any disassembling though id do a very very thorough search of the ground below and around your car and the whole engine bay.

is it possible for you to get pics so others can get a better understanding of whats happened?

[LaL]

sure ill get some now.. gotta go to the garge

[LaL]

man, my camera stuffed up! ...

ok do you know where the cam gears go ? just look directly down thats where it fell. illl fill that place up with water and if water leaks it means the washer has fallen. it water fills up them im stuffed since i know that the washer is stuck in there. hopefully its just lieght enuf for it to float

[TasR.X]

i dont know much about your engine, but i definitely wouldnt be filling any part of it with water. :Bang:

talk to a mechanic about it, dont risk anything it could be a very expensive **** up

[LaL]

OMG PEOPLE ARE ON DRUGS!!

i still havnt touched my car. its not in the damn engine. its just where the god damn timing belt goes.

[Jamezilla]

Just so people are clear - can you copy this pic and draw an arrow where the washer fell?

[TasR.X]

i realise that, its still not a good idea to fill it with water though

[Jamezilla]

Uh - yeah, I agree with the water bit.

No hose near the motor.

Here's another one:

[0HR-30T]

I might be able to offer 2c. I'm *99%* sure it's sealed from the engine internals,so there's no danger of it getting into the engine,but if by chance it flicks up into the cam belt when the motors running,it could get between the belt and the pulley,and make the belt jump teeth or something,so I'd say to pull the lower part of the cam belt cover off,and make sure it's the washer does no harm.Think you'll need to remove the water pump,and the crank pulley to do this...

Unless,you can loosen all the lower cover bolts,and carefully get a screwdriver or something between it and lever it off the block a bit,enough for the washer to drop out...assuming it's going to be in the right spot to do that.....hope that makes sence.

[LaL]

Well, this is where the washer fell i think. pretty much 100% sure.

its the small washer from the rubber gasket that stops water going in from the timing cover.

[LaL]

and this picture too!

[siksII]

did u fix it?

dont put water there! any liquid coming into contact with the timing belt will significantly reduce its life.

it would be stuck behind the lower timing belt cover, remove that and get it out, because it might get stuck between the timing belt and teeth, which might damage the belt.

[LaL]

havnt started it . i have no time im working 6day per week!

[rb25]

Jesus christ! Its not in the sump ffs. its fallen between the idler and tensioner pulley and on top of the crank sprocket, or below it. I definately wouldnt turn the engine over until I got it out. As suggested, use a magnetic tip bolt grabber thing. If you cant get it out, this might mean taking the belts off and the sprocket covers to get at it. bitch of a job.

-rb25

[rb25]

and wtf is this about putting water down there! DO NOT DO THIS.

Also if this is one of the washers off the inlet cam sprocket, you will need it to space the CAS off the sprocket correctly or it will chew the CAS out.

-rb25