Vertini Fairlady Rims

[Marshan]

Yes, the stock 350z suspensions do lower the car but not very much and maintains stock ride comfort. That's what Seano is worried about isn't he? The fact that the roads are bad in his area and he wants something thats suitable for daily driving.

Yeah. I think 19's should be comfy. 20 might make the ride a bit too hard?

[gkzlah]

personally I would drop the height a bit espec if you're running 20s

I've been running 19s for a while on stock suspension and the gap is annoying as hell.

Just haven't had the money to get a set of coils.

Much like hieu said, getting a set of 350z springs & shocks is probably the way to go.

[n15m0]

again, mines on the right

stick both yours and your mates tire profiles into the below calculator. Chances are you rolling diameter is smaller than his and hence yours looks lower.

http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp?err=98&rsn=cde-no-cde-gen-by-svr

lower the car on 19s instead of stock suspension on 20s. Thats my advice.

[Tai1or Made]

Doingitwrong.

[Seano350GT]

Yes, the stock 350z suspensions do lower the car but not very much and maintains stock ride comfort. That's what Seano is worried about isn't he? The fact that the roads are bad in his area and he wants something thats suitable for daily driving.

That's right yes, i would like to maintain comfort as the roads are shit and try not to lower it at all but still have a nice set of 20s.

350Z springs are a great idea i'll look into them

[Seano350GT]

Hmm, 1.5'' drop

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TEIN-S-TECH-LOWERING-COIL-SPRINGS-03-08-NISSAN-350Z-Z33-EXC-CONVERTIBLE-/290656667823?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43ac7cc8af#ht_964wt_902

[Deep Dish V35]

try the Z springs first (with matching shocks if possible). if you dont like them, theyll easily sell

[Seano350GT]

try the Z springs first (with matching shocks if possible). if you dont like them, theyll easily sell

They are pretty pricey though upwards of $800 delivered. Those Tein's are cheap as hell, is that a bad thing or is that a genuinely awesome deal?

[Deep Dish V35]

hell no! i bought a used set with just 20,000km of use for 250 delivered from perth

[Seano350GT]

Alright so that sounds like a good deal, might look into that a bit further it would save me loads getting the Tein springs than Z springs.

Besides, although the roads in Mackay are disgustingly bad i am more than likely moving in December to Townsville which has a lot better roads.

[n15m0]

If you are planning to use spacers to get the stance you want, just be aware they are highly illegal. Instant defect if caught and will also void your insurance in the event of a claim.

[Seano350GT]

If you are planning to use spacers to get the stance you want, just be aware they are highly illegal. Instant defect if caught and will also void your insurance in the event of a claim.

I'm not looking for "stance" all i'm trying to do is make the edge of my tyre/rim flush with the guards. Seriously, why's that? I've seen loads of people with a lot of camber and stance.

[Nightcrawler]

Technically, if you increase your wheel track by more that 10mm on each side (which decent width rims alone will do), then your car is illegal under Aus compliance rules. Let alone those of us that run around with 86mm wider stance than stock at the rear

[n15m0]

I'm not looking for "stance" all i'm trying to do is make the edge of my tyre/rim flush with the guards. Seriously, why's that? I've seen loads of people with a lot of camber and stance.

Stance is the look which you are trying to achieve by having your wheels closer or flush to the guards. Does not necessarily require camber, its just a "look" you are after. Qld transport rules are pretty clear on the use of spacers. PG 19

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/c792a0c9-92b1-43ee-933b-7bdd8b20842f/pdf_modification_motor_vehicles2.pdf

Most people who fit spacers are aware of the risks and are prepared for the consequences. I'm just making you aware.

[n15m0]

Technically, if you increase your wheel track by more that 10mm on each side (which decent width rims alone will do), then your car is illegal under Aus compliance rules. Let alone those of us that run around with 86mm wider stance than stock at the rear

Wheel track is probably a grey area and a lot easier to get away with IMO for QLD anyways it states:

"the track of a car can be increased by up to 26mm beyond the MAXIMUM specified by the vehicle manufacturer for the particular model of the vehicle"

I have never seen any specifications for this and assume factory track is not the maximum specified. As long as the wheels and tires don't protrude outside the guard you should be safe.

[Deep Dish V35]

i think in general, most people living in the world of stance and mexican offset have researched the rules and decided its better to be rebellious. and not all of us need spacers to get there.

it is important to know your local laws so you alone can choose to abide by them or not

[Nightcrawler]

Wheel track is probably a grey area and a lot easier to get away with IMO for QLD anyways it states:

"the track of a car can be increased by up to 26mm beyond the MAXIMUM specified by the vehicle manufacturer for the particular model of the vehicle"

I have never seen any specifications for this and assume factory track is not the maximum specified. As long as the wheels and tires don't protrude outside the guard you should be safe.

Sadly the SA cops DO have a doc with the max track of Skylines on it, and they DO measure them (I know people who have been defected for it).

[n15m0]

Its one thing for the cops to have this info but where would the average driver obtain this info? there are tire placards to specify correct tires/profile to use but where would one go to find out the max track specification? I would fight that defect tooth and nail.

[Nightcrawler]

They would argue that 1) just because the info might not be readily available to you, doesn't make the law any less applicable to you (but I am positive that your local rego office/defect clearing station would be able to supply it to you), and 2) if you are increasing the outer edge of your rim position out 43mm on each side compared to stock, you would be WELL aware that what you are fitting is illegal

[Deep Dish V35]

^^ plus trying to use the "but this is how i bought it" excuse never wins either

i would say that any place that does compliance should have the paperwork, or via your states rego office

oh and the reason its illegal - extra track width puts extra load on your wheel bearings (bearings have a load capacity that fall within ADR's) that could cause them to fail, which would result in a potentially fatal accident.

if you were to find a wheel bearing that fits, which also is documented as being safe under that extra load, you could get an engineer to inspect, test, and possibly write you a certificate saying your combination of wide wheels and upgraded bearings are within ADR spec and safe for use.

the problem you will then have is steering geometry, as the position of the front wheel and the king pin inclination are designed by manufacturers to align to a specific measurement so that the vehicle's steering reacts a certain way. shifting the centre line of the front wheel away from the king pin centre line makes steering heavy and no longer in line with Ackerman steering geometry principles.... good luck getting an engineer to look past that...

Edited August 5, 2012 by Deep Dish V35