Booki Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Hey all, I have been doing as much reading as i can regarding how to get 350rwkw out of my R33 GTR. At the moment all it has from the previous owner is a exhaust and some HKS Pods. Everything else is stock, including the turbo's. I have done some research and have a bit of a parts list put together by Kudo's, but just wondering what you fellas think...The car is going to be my daily driver. Garrett GT2860R-5s Turbo Install Kit (all required gaskets & studs...) Genuine Nissan Exhaust Manifold Stud Kit A'PEXi Power FC D-Jetro Greddy Suction Kit To Suit AFM Less Set-Up OR HKS AFM Replacement Bodies (To reuse factory intake set-up) HKS EVC 5 Electronic Boost Controller Walbro 400ltr/hr Intake Fump Pump OR Nismo Fuel Pump (Direct Replacement For Factory Pump, No Modifications Required) Power Enterprise 700cc Fuel Injector Set, Including Full Genuine Nissan Seal Kit Greddy Fuel Rail To Suit Above Injectors (anything above 550cc are 11mm and don't suit the factory rail) Tomei Type-L Fuel Pressure Regulator Do you think its nessasry to go MAP's vs Z32 AFM's? After i install everything, will i even be able to drive to the tuner? I think i remember reading that the D-Jetro doesn't have a base tune installed so the car won't run? Is it hard to install the MAP Sensors? It is a pretty pricey build, anywhere where you fellas think i could save a few pennies? Honestly I am looking for the best performance for the dollar. What ever gives me best bang for buck, that is what i want to go for! Input/comments/feedback much appreciated by all Edited August 6, 2012 by Booki Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydking Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 have a look at the rb26 dyno thread, but..... get ID 1000 cc injectors with adapters will fit std rail. dont need new fuel rail, Dont need pressure reg, z32 AFM is fine.... No mapless not needed. -5's with 20 psi or so will give you 350...But may aswell aim for 400 You after top end power, or response and a bit less top end? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Look at buying things from overseas to save $$$, the aud is good at the moment! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booki Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Looking for more response and a bit less top end, it is my daily after all. Didn't know you could get adapters to fit the std rail, any draw backs on not using a aftermarket fuel rail? Main reason why i wondered about the Z32 vs MAP is because you can normally pickup Z32's and Power FC's used. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booki Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Look at buying things from overseas to save $$$, the aud is good at the moment! Can you recommend any sites Mitch? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Can you recommend any sites Mitch? For the turbos, get onto street to track and email to get a quote. You'll save a fair but on those alone I would think Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryRB Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 anything for the fuel system go to "InjectorsOnline.com" I bought a set of 1000cc injectors at a great price and great service.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 False economy considering secondhand Z32s. They might work, but there's always a good chance that someone is unloading them because they were faulty in some way. Not worth the pain. Buy new, genuine from someone you can trust (and that's unlikely to be someone on eBay). Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydking Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Looking for more response and a bit less top end, it is my daily after all. Didn't know you could get adapters to fit the std rail, any draw backs on not using a aftermarket fuel rail? Main reason why i wondered about the Z32 vs MAP is because you can normally pickup Z32's and Power FC's used. As per the infomation and results on here, Then i would say wrong turbo choice, Go for the -9s instead. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booki Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Any reason why you would recommend the -9 instead of the -5? I believe the -5's are capable of more power (if the need arises) and have similar response to stock turbo's if not better? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
34GeeTeeTee Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Although - HKS EVC 5 Electronic Boost Controller Might be known as one of the boost controllers with all its features etc, they CAN be a pain in the a$$ as mine is nothing but trouble.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booki Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Whats happened to yours mat? Would you recommend something else? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I believe the -5's are capable of more power (if the need arises) and have similar response to stock turbo's if not better? Yes, capable of more power - no, most definitely laggier. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booki Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 How much more lag are we talking about? vs stock response? As I am happy with stock, if i need the power just down shift? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
34GeeTeeTee Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Constantly gets err100 under full boost when its bolted up... When it swings free it works 9 times out of 10... Its probably a rare case but google search shows similar complaints out there but NO fix seems to exist that i can see... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydking Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Any reason why you would recommend the -9 instead of the -5? I believe the -5's are capable of more power (if the need arises) and have similar response to stock turbo's if not better? -5 are like hks 2530 and -9 like hks gtss, both more lag then stock, by the sounds of it you want -7/34n1 turbostheres a good write up in someones sig (forget who) that has the turbos choice for the power wanted. -9s wont make 350, But close enough and -7s will make 320 odd. -5 although such a popular turbos are much better with a stoked motor, Or a track car where you can wind the boost up and really let them open up. As your said yours is a daily, -5s would be usless below 4500 rpm, -9s would be biggest id go. And -7s would be the best choice for a daily street gtr. The aboive pretty much sums it up, Have a search in my name for the many threads i made about -5 vs -9 ect ect. Edited August 6, 2012 by sydking Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiTAN Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 have similar response to stock turbo's if not better? lol. no. -5's are not as responsive as stock, -9 are similar, -5 is always going to have more lag. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6475789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryRB Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Although - HKS EVC 5 Electronic Boost Controller Might be known as one of the boost controllers with all its features etc, they CAN be a pain in the a$$ as mine is nothing but trouble.... get an apexi avc-r , mine has never had trouble, is easy to work and has alot of adjustability Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6476098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booki Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Still trying to decide if i want -5 or -9 turbo's. How is the car revving before you reach full boost? Also, How do you go about fitting bigger injectors in the stock fuel rail? or am i better off getting a bigger fuel rail? (where do i buy the adapters?) Edited August 8, 2012 by Booki Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6478515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydking Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Still trying to decide if i want -5 or -9 turbo's. How is the car revving before you reach full boost? Also, How do you go about fitting bigger injectors in the stock fuel rail? or am i better off getting a bigger fuel rail? (where do i buy the adapters?) You said you car was a daily and wanted resposne, Unless you have a stroker kit then -9s are your only choice that matches your needs As for injectors, Tuff car parts will do a set of adapters to suit std rail for about $50 a set. Grab some Id 1000cc from tuspeed.com, Great service and good price at $745 odd Edited August 8, 2012 by sydking Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/406401-checkout-the-parts-for-my-r33-350kw-build/#findComment-6478607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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