spartacus77 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Hi all Ive got both options available at the mo as both are available in full kit form locally however the turbo kit has no ecu,so what do you suggest for the piggyback? Or should i go the blower which has the a/m ecu? Decisions!?! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencer Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 depends what are you after turbo more high end power opposed to supercharger more low end Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6489115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-Mad Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 what is your power goal? Uprev for the ECU will work as long as you keep the AFM, even if upgraded AFM and will be most probably the cheapest/easiest solution. Are you doing work yourself or handing it over to a workshop? Budget? Location? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6489126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus77 Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 i have a mate who has done the supercharger kit on a vq35de and has worked on lots of turbo cars before, as hes a mechanic im in perth and no-one really does v35s over here. im a boilermaker so exhaust fab is no issue.no set budget as such. leaning toward turbo kit cos its garret with hks pipes intercooler etc. any feedback much appreciated, might buy it tomorrow. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6490464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus77 Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 the kit made 270rwkw on a 350z so something like that would be nice Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6490468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-Mad Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 You need to search this section - there are plenty of threads on it - also look at my350z, and g35driver. however they have much inflated hp figures because they are USA USA USA Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6490561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hako Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I'm assuming s/c kit is HKS? If so and it includes ECU (FCon) then no-one in Perth can tune it currently as far as I'm aware. Something to keep in mind anyway... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6491610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamhe77 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 You don't need the Fcon to use the HKS supercharger. The kit doesn't include the Fcon. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6491934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus77 Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 off to look at turbo kit Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6492805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus77 Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 saw the kit, was mint and the price was too good not to buy it so i did brand new garret with hks gear even chucked in the auto upgrade for free stoked- install next week 350hp here i come Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6493081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 saw the kit, was mint and the price was too good not to buy it so i did brand new garret with hks gear even chucked in the auto upgrade for free stoked- install next week 350hp here i come Nice, got any pics? How are you tuning it? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6493437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus77 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 the kit is an HKS special turbo system kit gt3037 56t i can get a perfect power smt8 ecu for nothing, is this an anyway decent unit? or should i buy something else? tuning at a mates workshop, its not what you know........... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6497238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-Mad Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So, you know what you have to do to make the kit fit....? Or is someone doing it for you? Have you thought about injectors, fuel pump, plugs, exhaust, Upgraded AFM? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6497321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus77 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 it has instruction manual in japanese but i know someone.... also the kit is made for a vq35de so shouldnt be a big issue my car has a nismo a/m exhast and i know a guy who wants to swap mine for his coz he took a turbo kit off his putting it back stock to sell. i know a guy with big injectors for sale if required and i have nismo irridium plugs in it looking into afm now Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6497466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus77 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 i know a lot of people Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6497474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 You will probably need colder plugs anyway. Do you have the number of the ones you put in? I can get Bosch 1000's that drop straight in and idle perfectly for around $600 new, so don't pay too much for second hand ones, in fact I would be buying new anyway. Your mate is going to be pissed with you, it isn't an easy kit to fit. Probably easier to pull the engine. Any idea what boost you plan to run? Has the tuner worked on VQ's before? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6497686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-Mad Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 You might know a lot of people- But I installed that kit, got the tuning software, and made it run. On a car it was never designed for. So I know exactly what you have to change. All I hope is that the people you know have some decent knowledge about VQ35des and turbos. Otherwise it'll never make it off the dyno. I suggest you research some more. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6497723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus77 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 yeah hes done a vq with a vortek blower kit install in a 350z. My turbo guru has 15yrs exp with snails and charges in cartons of beer If he doesnt know it its not worth knowing so im in good hands.Im planning on 7psi at this stage cos thats what the previous guy ran on his. Any thoughts on the perfect power smt8? cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6497781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-Mad Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 wouldn't touch it with a barge pole when there is better options out there. Depends on what you want to spend. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6497792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6n350GT Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 As PN-Mad said ther are many better options, Haltech Platnium Pro (new one swaps the ecu completely), old one plugs into it <---- One of these prob the best option ~$2600 new, $1400 2nd hand from usa Utec with MAP sensor <--- piggy back but also acts like a standalone after certain RPM <---- Pre Osiris was the best affordable EMS, $1000new (no longer made), $450/500 2nd hand from usa Uprev Osiris <--- Cable and software to flash your stock ECU, good for a upto certain HP, but you need upgraded MAF $600 new, 2nd hand varies $400ish - there are more $ types like tuning model or something The Haltech and Utec both run MAP sensors which you use instead of the MAF sensor. Haltech is a must for another over 500HP id say Utec is good if you like the extra like external map selector, boost controller etc and good for up to 500HP, maybe more Osiris i dont know what HP this is good for... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/407102-supercharged-vs-turbocharged/#findComment-6498123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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