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dkbcleaner Proficient

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so whats the point of having all these new teams if there going to be running the same cars with just different looking shells? Apart from making it more even and shit who cares if nissan and mercedes are going to join than

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I think the idea is to welcome in different sponsors who will be attracted with more manufacturers and exposure to different markets. This means more funding to various teams and hopefully some closer competition.

I don't mind that they have some control parts under the skin. They get flogged because they are not production cars....but then they get criticised for not bing proper race cars...you only have to look at how GT1 has fallen over again. GT3 with it and the rise and fall of various classes OS and you have to say that the local series is at least reasonably healthy. Hell they are now the support series for 3 F1 rounds. Now with 4 manufacturers who tweak the design windows for optimum performance. No cars are alike under the skin even if they are given the same broad brush strokes to work within

Roy Grand Master

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Still may as well be NASCAR :-(

Bring back 1990's style Group A touring car racing!!

I am not trying to be rude but how old are you? Did you actually ever watch Grp A races? Maybe Winton, maybe Lakeside gave us reasonable races with M3s vs Sierras vs Skylines. But generally it was a cake walk for particular makes of cars/teams and there was not any racing. I loved it due to the variety of cars, but there was little racing.

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I think the idea is to welcome in different sponsors who will be attracted with more manufacturers and exposure to different markets. This means more funding to various teams and hopefully some closer competition.

I don't mind that they have some control parts under the skin. They get flogged because they are not production cars....but then they get criticised for not bing proper race cars...you only have to look at how GT1 has fallen over again. GT3 with it and the rise and fall of various classes OS and you have to say that the local series is at least reasonably healthy. Hell they are now the support series for 3 F1 rounds. Now with 4 manufacturers who tweak the design windows for optimum performance. No cars are alike under the skin even if they are given the same broad brush strokes to work within

Ok cool that makes sense

Plus it will upset bogans! So it's automatically a win! :P

Haha good enough reason for me too

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I am not trying to be rude but how old are you? Did you actually ever watch Grp A races? Maybe Winton, maybe Lakeside gave us reasonable races with M3s vs Sierras vs Skylines. But generally it was a cake walk for particular makes of cars/teams and there was not any racing. I loved it due to the variety of cars, but there was little racing.

Fair point, I was quite young then so maybe i wasnt as critical of the quality of the racing.

I just like the idea of "improved" production cars as opposed to tube-frame chassis cars with 'car make' body panels and control motors etc.

I daresay that in any discipline of motorsport there will always be teams/manufacturers who have bigger budgets and more backing which often means that they will be harder to beat.

Id still prefer that and be able to hear a R35GTR with a dirty side pipe or a grumpy sounding Evo blasting around alongside the Ford/Holden contingent. From a marketing/fan perspective, I also think it means more for enthusiasts and does wonders for 'brand' loyalty.

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I am not trying to be rude but how old are you? Did you actually ever watch Grp A races? Maybe Winton, maybe Lakeside gave us reasonable races with M3s vs Sierras vs Skylines. But generally it was a cake walk for particular makes of cars/teams and there was not any racing. I loved it due to the variety of cars, but there was little racing.

Fair point, I was quite young then so maybe i wasnt as critical of the quality of the racing.

I just like the idea of "improved" production cars as opposed to tube-frame chassis cars with 'car make' body panels and control motors etc.

I daresay that in any discipline of motorsport there will always be teams/manufacturers who have bigger budgets and more backing which often means that they will be harder to beat.

Id still prefer that and be able to hear a R35GTR with a dirty side pipe or a grumpy sounding Evo blasting around alongside the Ford/Holden contingent. From a marketing/fan perspective, I also think it means more for enthusiasts and does wonders for 'brand' loyalty.

My 2 cents

I absolutely agree with the Group A idea. Watching the different cars in different classes go at each other was way more fun. Nowadays they have to do reverse grid positions etc to try to bring back some excitement. To me racing doesn't always have to be about driver skill. It is about having a solid team and that includes the unseen guys trying to get sponsors and organise the cars. If those people are doing their job well and that means their team is dominant for a season or two so be it. If a driver is dominant do we suddenly chop a leg off to bring him into line with the rest? Having the different classes in one race will always keep the interest up. Having those cars more closely related to ones that can be bought at a dealer, even if it is some homologated limited production run should be better for the industry as well.

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Roy Grand Master

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I absolutely agree with the Group A idea. Watching the different cars in different classes go at each other was way more fun. Nowadays they have to do reverse grid positions etc to try to bring back some excitement. To me racing doesn't always have to be about driver skill. It is about having a solid team and that includes the unseen guys trying to get sponsors and organise the cars. If those people are doing their job well and that means their team is dominant for a season or two so be it. If a driver is dominant do we suddenly chop a leg off to bring him into line with the rest? Having the different classes in one race will always keep the interest up. Having those cars more closely related to ones that can be bought at a dealer, even if it is some homologated limited production run should be better for the industry as well.

If thats what you want to see then go and watch the state and national rounds of the Production Cars.

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The cars are so close together now, there is no way they will let that change, more weight, less aero etc etc.... There will be no make that can dominate due to the rules....

Although when u see now the same teams winning over and over it makes u wonder....

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If thats what you want to see then go and watch the state and national rounds of the Production Cars.

If all you want to watch is a bunch of the same cars racing go and watch the Suzuki Swift or HQ Holdens series :)

Roy Grand Master

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If all you want to watch is a bunch of the same cars racing go and watch the Suzuki Swift or HQ Holdens series :)

I wasn't being a smart ass. Just pointing out what you are wanting to see already exists in another category. So copying another less successful category isn't going to be a very good model

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