Ecr33 Front Suspension To Macpherson

[GTSBoy]

No. If you read what you yourself have written, you will see that the act of drifting requires a lot of longitudinal drive force to be expended to make the car want to follow a curve for which its corner entry speed is too high.

Brute force over elegance.

[nisskid]

No. If you read what you yourself have written, you will see that the act of drifting requires a lot of longitudinal drive force to be expended to make the car want to follow a curve for which its corner entry speed is too high.

Brute force over elegance.

i think you just said a whole lot of words without really making sense. you might be thinking of powersliding, but you don't need bulk longitudinal drive to drift, a lot of drift cars dont have much of it, but the good thing is if you do have it, with drift you can use it to steer the car as the whole car is pointed towards the exit of the corner as opposed to even your most wild slip angle a grip car might carry where the rears are still pointing and pushing you towards the outside of the corner (ie not where you wanna go).

drift is the very essence of car balance, the fact that it's been basterdised into barely more than a powerskid comp in some areas of the world doesn't take away from the fact that the sport was formed in cars which didn't have enough power to even do a standstill burnout, they used careful weight shifts and well placed line to continue a drift.

[Risking]

Drift is the best end of thread.......

[nisskid]

Drift is the best end of thread.......

Gee, what a rare sight on SAU, short sighted grip elitists who can't understand the concept of appreciating each motorsport for what it is.

[djr81]

i think you just said a whole lot of words without really making sense. you might be thinking of powersliding, but you don't need bulk longitudinal drive to drift, a lot of drift cars dont have much of it, but the good thing is if you do have it, with drift you can use it to steer the car as the whole car is pointed towards the exit of the corner as opposed to even your most wild slip angle a grip car might carry where the rears are still pointing and pushing you towards the outside of the corner (ie not where you wanna go).

drift is the very essence of car balance, the fact that it's been basterdised into barely more than a powerskid comp in some areas of the world doesn't take away from the fact that the sport was formed in cars which didn't have enough power to even do a standstill burnout, they used careful weight shifts and well placed line to continue a drift.

For my ten cents worth I think there is a common misunderstanding that alot of people have.

Put correctly any tyre that is producing lateral grip is generating a slip angle.

Also steering a car on the throttle is a common technique in just about all forms of motorsport.

It is still common to see cars pointed well inboard of the apex of the corner due to the slip angles generated by front and rear tyres. Admittedly not as much as the olden days when slip angles used to be much bigger but enough. It is most pronounced in low powered categories with no downforce eg the formula vees and fords do it alot.

[nisskid]

For my ten cents worth I think there is a common misunderstanding that alot of people have.

Put correctly any tyre that is producing lateral grip is generating a slip angle.

Also steering a car on the throttle is a common technique in just about all forms of motorsport.

It is still common to see cars pointed well inboard of the apex of the corner due to the slip angles generated by front and rear tyres. Admittedly not as much as the olden days when slip angles used to be much bigger but enough. It is most pronounced in low powered categories with no downforce eg the formula vees and fords do it alot.

at large radius corners with high G's and big slip angles, yes your rears will be pointing towards the exit, but like i said, with even the most wild slip angles, on tight radius corners your average grip car isn't coming anywhere near the rear wheels pointing towards the exit.

[Dan_J]

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maybe we need a 'Fastest Corner' challenge at the next ADGP grip vs drift drivers