Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 103
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

There was an issue of MOTOR or Wheels i cant remember where they compared a 911 Turbo to a 34 GTR, stock and stock. The 911 beat it by 0.8 secs down the quater. However the prices of both vehicles gave an idea of some sort: R34 GTR $110,000 / 911 Turbo $310,000. :P imagine spending another 100g's let along 50g's and comming back to the porsche, skyline would ****in own it.

a R34 is just as fast as a 996TT. not qtr mile but.

Oooh BUSTER, you gotta take a chill pill a relax a little, you don't know me at all and I am far from a Hero GTR owner, with a big ego.

My point is "quite clear" out of the factory GTR's are a High 12-low 13 car, how many cars "out of the factory" can do that, even modified some cars have to spend big $$ to do that.

And I don't race anyboy racers, infact I don't go out looking for races either, but if you want a race I have a friend with an XF Falcon, it got the old 250Xflow 6cyclinder, carby (not EFI), using Taxi GAS, that will give you a 2-3second head start, while his watching some DVD's, getting a massage from his Vibrating seats :P, and still blow you all on street tyres... But That's not the point I am making.

No I chose not to buy a GTR as imo for low to mid $30k I was able to be a very quick highly modded 1996 GTST, I did look at a few lightly modded GTR's that were forsale for the same $$ but value wise the GTST was miles ahead of the GTR's in performance and value as I would of had to spend at least another $10k  on the GTR to have made it maybe as fast as the GTST is

 

I've ran 11.7 @ 128mph in a GTST what have you run? or have you and meshmesh raced a few boy racers on the street and come to the opinion the GTR can not be beat hahaha don't make me laugh

 

I run exactly the same set up on the street as I do at the drags and trust me when I tell you I have no problem beating most GTR's on the road or the strip, I know there are GTR's and even other GTST's that are quicker then me but I was replying to meshmesh's blanket statement of  

 

Did he mention stock or out of factory, NO he didn't

 

hahaha the big deal is I wasn't talking about any of the cars you mentioned, I was talking about other imports I have mates in anything from a S15 to a R32-R33 gtst that will happily beat your unbeatable stock GTR at the strip or on the road

Thats a very good time you ran. well done im sure you will beat me (not in the wet :P )

No I havent run my GTR as I have only had it for a few weeks (and I can tell you I payed a lot less for it than your GTST).

for the cars you mentioned on the road it would be hard to match the times (even probably for you!) that you would do on a sticky drag strip with a 30sec burnout. even with my previous GTST I would have traction problems at 14PSI (I ran a 14flat Heathcote although my tyres were shit (I think the car would have been good for a high 13)).

once I get an exhaust,PFC, cam gears, remove boost restrictor I shoud be able to run mid to low 12's...so any car that can beat me on the road or strip, I take my hat off to.

Oooh BUSTER, you gotta take a chill pill a relax a little, you don't know me at all and I am far from a Hero GTR owner, with a big ego.

My point is "quite clear" out of the factory GTR's are a High 12-low 13 car, how many cars "out of the factory" can do that, even modified some cars have to spend big $$ to do that.

And I don't race anyboy racers, infact I don't go out looking for races either, but if you want a race I have a friend with an XF Falcon, it got the old 250Xflow 6cyclinder, carby (not EFI), using Taxi GAS, that will give you a 2-3second head start, while his watching some DVD's, getting a massage from his Vibrating seats :P, and still blow you all on street tyres... But That's not the point I am making.

Sorry I missed the STOCK part in your first quote I have no problem with the fact that a stock GTR is good from factory but its a far cry from what you said in the 1st post I replied to

You know of a 8 second XF falcon?? hahaha thats great but what the f*ck has it got to do with what you posted

I don't need to take a chill pill I just get sick of how one sided some people are and kid themselves that there GTR can not be beaten

Maybe you should buy some of my DVD's ? AHHAHAHA. man  a R34 VSPEC II will smoke any porsche.

Maybe not a GT1 :P .

but for roadcar wise there is nothing that can beat the R34. look at the Mines R34 for an example. do you seriously think a mclaren can beat that...

go figure.

Have you seriously seen any footage of a Mclaren going around a circuit??? If you had you wouldnt be so quick to dismiss it...my money would be on the Mclaren.

I havent driven any of them so not too qualified to talk about it, but watching the BMI vids/dvds, then the EVO VII /VIII Lancers hand it to the GTR on circuits, and it took a Nimso modified R32 GTR VSpec to keep up with the Porsche 996TT.

I love Skylines, but come on, you are still talking about a production car built in large numbers, even when modified i wouldnt be putting too much money on them beating the truly exotic cars like V10 Porsches / McLarens etc etc around race tracks

I have seen a comparo with a R33 GTR being punted aorund a race track by Richard Burns, and it had the quickest lap time, all std road cars and up against 355 Ferraris, 996 Porsche (NA 3.6L) , Louts Elise, Ferrari 550, Mitsu 3000GT...so they are damn quick cars, but ...

meshmesh your right. its not if you modify a car. stock cars that do 12 seconds is rare for this price. a GTST is NOTHING like a GTR even if its modified

hahaha yep your right a modified GTST is nothing like a stock GTR, The GTST is much faster, better value and all in all more fun

hahaha yep your right a modified GTST is nothing like a stock GTR, The GTST is much faster, better value and all in all more fun

maybe the Japs got it wrong?

The GTST was really suppossed to be their supercar and not the GTR?

If you are so anti-GTR why do you have a GTR spoiler on your GTST?

no no sorry I know it seems I'm anti GTR I'm really not, I love GTR's though they are not for me its the attitude of some GTR drivers that upset me not the car

I'm even using a GTR head on my new set up hahaha and all I meant by the above comment was that there is really no comparision in my opinion between a modded GTST, well as modded as mine is and a stock GTR its not fair to the GTR to even compare

no no sorry I know it seems I'm anti GTR I'm really not, I love GTR's though they are not for me its the attitude of some GTR drivers that upset me not the car

I'm even using a GTR head on my new set up hahaha and all I meant by the above comment was that there is really no comparision in my opinion between a modded GTST, well as modded as mine is and a stock GTR its not fair to the GTR to even compare

Its funny how easily a thread gets diverted....all I initially asked was has anyone given any off these expensive eurocars a bit of a hiding.... I guess I shoud have generalised to all skylines and not just GTRs!!! oh well its all just a bit of fun

I'm even using a GTR head on my new set up hahaha and all I meant by the above comment was that there is really no comparision in my opinion between a modded GTST, well as modded as mine is and a stock GTR its not fair to the GTR to even compare

So the moral to your story is buy a modded gtst for over $30k, make it look like a gtr, go to the expense of adding a gtr head and you have a car that would be marginally quicker in a straight line than a lightly modded gtr. But hey after spending your $40k+ you'll have buyers lined up when it comes time to resell. Maybe you could add a front diff and attessa to your shopping list and you'll have a gtr buster.

for me, "R" is just another letter of the alphabet :P

when i had my wrx, i had a few squirts with a black Ferrari 355 spyder off the lights and from rolling 60-70km/h starts......but this was yearsssss ago. what a h00t!!!

off the line i took him by 1.5 car lengths (my wrx was far from stock), but by 80km/h he was practically infront me. i will never forget the sound of it as it screamed past and i will also never forget the amount of cheers and thumbs up i got from other motorists who witnessed it :)

So the moral to your story is buy a modded gtst for over $30k, make it look like a gtr, go to the expense of adding a gtr head and you have a car that would be marginally quicker in a straight line than a lightly modded gtr. But hey after spending your $40k+ you'll have buyers lined up when it comes time to resell. Maybe you could add a front diff and attessa to your shopping list and you'll have a gtr buster.

For sure the moral of the story is buy a highly modded GTST for $30k and run 11's no other expenses unless you really think the rear wing cost $10k hahaha

yep just because i'm using a GTR head in the new set up means I want my car to be a GTR :P the times and power quoted were all done with the RB25det with the mods that came with the car

hahaha marginally quicker you really think i'd change a 330rwkw set up to be only marginally quicker, I'm changing to a RB30/26 with bigger turbo, bigger cams pretty well bigger everything so I can run 10's and because I bought the car with mods I was able to sell them and will get into the new set up for a fraction of the price as to what it would of cost me had I started with the same lightly modded GTR I could of bought for $30k

So I'd say the moral the story is I will end up with a 10 second 1996 GTST for my $40k+ and be one of the fastest GTST's in Australia and you'll have your GTR hahaha

I'm not saying GTST's are better cars all I'm doing is pointing out that bang for buck the GTR is not everyones cup of tea and as drags are what I choose for my car the GTST is better value to get what I want out of it

Buster, sorry to say your skyline will get whooped by a GTR R33. just put 15psi and zorst the R will flog your ass.

anyway about the GT-R shit. i have LOTS AND LOTS of Mclaren video's i have one of a 660HP R34 GT-R Vspec II racing a Mclaren and there is nothing like the corner exit speed accel taht can compare to the GTR even against a mclaren with same horses.

and look at the weight and price differnce. and even the looks destroyd it.

ahh well whatever you guys think i have race a 355ci torry on the highway and WHOOOPED his ass rolling start 100km/h at 17psi.

I'm changing to a RB30/26 with bigger turbo, bigger cams pretty well bigger everything so I can run 10's and because I bought the car with mods I was able to sell them and will get into the new set up

Sorry I misunderstood, buy a modded gtst and sell the mods, then put a gtr top end on a 3.0 litre. Might have been easier for you to buy the gtr and remove the front drive shaft if you want that gtr engineering without the added traction. While you were adding that gtr wing did you add other gtr access too such as seats and brembos? The thread started out comparing gtr's to big dollar euros - funny you dont see any gtst's being compared to these performance cars. You can haha all you like i'm to busy rolling aroud in stitches to get a haha out.

Sorry I misunderstood, buy a modded gtst and sell the mods, then put a gtr top end on a 3.0 litre. Might have been easier for you to buy the gtr and remove the front drive shaft if you want that gtr engineering without the added traction. While you were adding that gtr wing did you add other gtr access too such as seats and brembos? The thread started out comparing gtr's to big dollar euros - funny you dont see any gtst's being compared to these performance cars. You can haha all you like i'm to busy rolling aroud in stitches to get a haha out.

There we go someone let it out :P good on yah ben:) heheh

anyway your right why didnt anyone compare a GTST ? i think because they are NOTHING and i mean NOTHING like a GT-R.

big dollar euros are usually big dollars and luxury. performance wise they arnt to good for the dollar.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • H2 (for cars) will never happen. It's not reasonable for any number of reasons. It's also not reasonable for almost all of the industrial uses that the fanbois say that it will be used for, again for a large number of reasons. There are some cases where it will be good. But, even those will be massively hampered by the economics. The only way that H2 can be economic is if we somehow manage to get from where we are to the other side of the economic-valley-of-death in which no-one can operate. You need there to be sufficient renewable generated electricity to be available so that it is effectively free. Once you are there, you can do whatever the hell you want and hang the efficiency. But until you get there, the ever diminishing value of electricity makes it harder and harder to encourage businesses to build the new generation capacity, and they will simply stop investing in generation projects. (I kinda think there needs to be just government money spent on building the required capacity in a non-commercial way, similar to how the first fossil fueled grids were built, as national-government owned utilities. And probably some nuclear in there to start. But this all should have started 10-15 years ago to avoid the chasm of death that we face right now). Synth fuels will be much more likely, but will only occur is there is at least some renewable H2 production, because you need H2 to do it. And you need stacks of free (or at least extraordinarily cheap) energy because assembling molecules back into fuels is exactly the opposite process to burning the fuel, and the reason we burn fuels is because there is so much energy squeezed into each molecule. So you're somewhat subject to the same economic valley of death problem as above anyway. That is unless people are willing to pay the current equivalent of $5 or $6 per litre of petrol-ish liquid fuels. Can you imagine it? The squealing at $2 now is bad enough.
    • This is so cool. Get a dashcam that records audio and hopefully you'll catch it.  Maybe there's a brand or some kind of markings on the back ? Are the pics hand drawn? I love it so much.
    • Hahaha yep, point(s) taken. I just like seeing different things and an EV in an R32 is pretty different. I'm not on the EV band wagon, I'm waiting for synthetic fuels or hydrogen personally. 
    • I mean it's probably likely that people overestimate their skills in dialling in a setup and noticing the changes. I had SK shocks and springs, and added heavier springs and got them revalved by Sydney Shocks to suit based upon what I told them I wanted the car to handle like. I got back a completely different feeling set of shocks, which probably (?) feel great on track but holy hell are they rough on tram tracks and the like. The shock dyno actually looks pretty similar to Shockworks (from what I can surmise from a screenshot of a youtube video - and my dyno printout...) Truth be told I doubt I'd be any faster or slower with either setup, or camber/castor combination. I also had whiteline eccentric castor bushes up front of my R34. I removed them and put in poly non-adjustable ones to soothe my OCD (nobody ever set the castor the same side to side, and it'd be near impossible to do) and be happy the wheel is centered in the well now for clearance reasons. Yes I wanted it to move 1mm 'back' :p I've effectively set my castor back to stock, negating all the benefits of that which is supposedly massive. I've probably also altered toe and camber in a negative (detrimental) way. I can't tell any difference steering the car.
×
×
  • Create New...