Deano 1 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Can u tell us what happened to the Nitto 2.7L that this car had in it awhile ago? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6651973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITTO R34 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Got a video text of its run last night Thing sounded and looked insane Thanks! Here is the Youtube vid of it: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR260 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Can u tell us what happened to the Nitto 2.7L that this car had in it awhile ago? I'd like to know too! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 That box! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Motorsport Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 So lets clear up some of the rumors...... The original Nitto 2.7L blew a head gasket at power cruise in 2010 when we were running the GT47R through a mixture of too much boost and also too much coolant temp (it copped a cainning!). We didn't time to repair it before Autosalon, so we decided to run the car on the dyno as it was. On 40+psi it made 1072hp, but had sucked in some coolant and damaged a rod. This caused a rod failure AFTER autosalon at a photoshoot under light load destroying the N1 block. The engine was removed and replaced with a standard 05U rb26 and a T04z setup as we wanted a street style setup and we had spent a lot of funds to get to that point. The stroker kit was inspected and any damaged items were replaced and since then we have sold/fitted the 2.7L into a customers car. For the past 2 years we have been running the standard engine and with great success, using E85 and generally running around 30psi boost. I now personally tune the car (I didn't with the 2.7L engine, it was one of my staff) and switched to a HALTECH ECU. The T04Z was getting boring, so we had a play around with a few turbos (doing more R&D) and eventually we installed the Precision 7675. I wanted to see how far we could go with the standard components as 2J's are always referred to as unbreakable and I thought it was time an RB got some credit! It went into the 700's (hp) and I was having a chat with Mark @ Godzilla. I asked if he thought 800hp was possible and he kinda laughed at me. I dont mind a challenge, so I had a new goal of 800hp. We got to 805hp and this particular engine was hanging in there pretty well! We had run 30psi, then 35psi, then 40psi! it just wouldnt break! Hell we even threw a 100 shot of gas on there for a bit more response. To me it is experimenting, but on my own gear. It allowed us to play with the Haltech ECU and use many more of its features other than just timing and fuel. It runs everything including the NOS, flat shift (when we put the sequential in there), coolant pressure protection, complete engine protection (temps, pressures etc) full EGT on each cylinder and also post turbo....the list goes on. We are the first to realise the standard engine is a timebomb (yes we are realistic!) and wanting to do something different instead of just another 2.7L (as we had already done that), we have been building a 3.2L Nitto engine over a period of time whilst using the standard engine. This engine is getting the works including sleeves, billet main caps, 4wd girdle plate and a few other little goodies. This will be combined with a new custom head (bigger and better!) and a larger precision turbo. Our goal is to build an amazing street car with 1000hp at the wheels that can be used at Powercruise events, off street drags, air strip run, 1000m races etc. We love our 34 GTR so stay tuned for more updates as we fit the new engine and attend more events, showcasing it performance. Trent Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge_r34gtr Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 So lets clear up some of the rumors...... The original Nitto 2.7L blew a head gasket at power cruise in 2010 when we were running the GT47R through a mixture of too much boost and also too much coolant temp (it copped a cainning!). We didn't time to repair it before Autosalon, so we decided to run the car on the dyno as it was. On 40+psi it made 1072hp, but had sucked in some coolant and damaged a rod. This caused a rod failure AFTER autosalon at a photoshoot under light load destroying the N1 block. The engine was removed and replaced with a standard 05U rb26 and a T04z setup as we wanted a street style setup and we had spent a lot of funds to get to that point. The stroker kit was inspected and any damaged items were replaced and since then we have sold/fitted the 2.7L into a customers car. For the past 2 years we have been running the standard engine and with great success, using E85 and generally running around 30psi boost. I now personally tune the car (I didn't with the 2.7L engine, it was one of my staff) and switched to a HALTECH ECU. The T04Z was getting boring, so we had a play around with a few turbos (doing more R&D) and eventually we installed the Precision 7675. I wanted to see how far we could go with the standard components as 2J's are always referred to as unbreakable and I thought it was time an RB got some credit! It went into the 700's (hp) and I was having a chat with Mark @ Godzilla. I asked if he thought 800hp was possible and he kinda laughed at me. I dont mind a challenge, so I had a new goal of 800hp. We got to 805hp and this particular engine was hanging in there pretty well! We had run 30psi, then 35psi, then 40psi! it just wouldnt break! Hell we even threw a 100 shot of gas on there for a bit more response. To me it is experimenting, but on my own gear. It allowed us to play with the Haltech ECU and use many more of its features other than just timing and fuel. It runs everything including the NOS, flat shift (when we put the sequential in there), coolant pressure protection, complete engine protection (temps, pressures etc) full EGT on each cylinder and also post turbo....the list goes on. We are the first to realise the standard engine is a timebomb (yes we are realistic!) and wanting to do something different instead of just another 2.7L (as we had already done that), we have been building a 3.2L Nitto engine over a period of time whilst using the standard engine. This engine is getting the works including sleeves, billet main caps, 4wd girdle plate and a few other little goodies. This will be combined with a new custom head (bigger and better!) and a larger precision turbo. Our goal is to build an amazing street car with 1000hp at the wheels that can be used at Powercruise events, off street drags, air strip run, 1000m races etc. We love our 34 GTR so stay tuned for more updates as we fit the new engine and attend more events, showcasing it performance. Trent Damn. I liked the rumor that the rod bent BEFORE the autosalon dyno run. lol It's sounds like you have had alot of 'fun' with this car over the past two years and i'm actually keen to see you install the 3.2 and poke it with a stick. I look foward to seeing furture updates with this car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITTO R34 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Hahaha! We liked ALL of the rumours... We also like the one where apparently we're using an N1 block as our 'stocker' that's currently making 845awhp! It's all about R&D, it's been a lot of fun pushing boundaires & we're blown away with the power that we've got out of that stock 26 so far... It's a credit to Trent's tuning. Looking very forward to popping the 3.2 in, that's for sure Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Trent post up the photo you showed me in Adelaide on your phone of the before/after Nitrous install and the difference in response! It was HUGE... Nitrous is still super gay though Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Motorsport Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yeah it does make a big difference, but if I show everyone, then they will all do the same thing!! hahaha. But in all seriousness, an extra 1000rpm of spool is pretty handy. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1200 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yeah it does make a big difference, but if I show everyone, then they will all do the same thing!! hahaha. But in all seriousness, an extra 1000rpm of spool is pretty handy. Not sure your rod bolts would agree Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITTO R34 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 They've agreed so far Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 1 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Thanks for that, that's awesome news, I'm not scared to pull the waste gate lines off my -5s now, throw some e85 in it and get jez to tune to suit. Haha that would b interesting Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6652997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mico Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) how much oil are u adding to the std sump tho and do u get surge ? filling right up to the cap ? lol Edited December 3, 2012 by mico Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6653146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 1 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 What how much oil got to do with how much power he is making? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6653420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 In a straight line, not much at all. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6653471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 1 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Didn't think so Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6653752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mico Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 anything under 6l with 800hp and the bearings would be toast a long time ago. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6654545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Motorsport Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Up until 1 month ago, it had standard sump with the oil just filled to the top line on the dipstick, as you would with any car. When we changed the diff ratios, we installed a 9L sump and again filled it to the top line of the dipstick. WE HAVE NEVER OVER FILLED THE ENGINE WITH OIL! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6654596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) Up until 1 month ago, it had standard sump with the oil just filled to the top line on the dipstick, as you would with any car. When we changed the diff ratios, we installed a 9L sump and again filled it to the top line of the dipstick. WE HAVE NEVER OVER FILLED THE ENGINE WITH OIL! You could have at least wacked a set of billet pump gears in when you had the sump off you stingy bugger Edited December 4, 2012 by SimonR32 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6654604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 1 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 anything under 6l with 800hp and the bearings would be toast a long time ago. How? What diffrence does 800hp make? Any engine weather it be a Suzuki mighty boy or a ride on lawn mower, if it don't the right amount of oil in it, the bearings will b toast. It doesn't matter how much power you got. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411489-500kw-club/page/3/#findComment-6655168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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