MrIrons Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Hi all, First post here, have been a skyline owner for some time. I'm driving a bog stock R33 GTST S1 (1994) with approx 170xxx km's on the clock. During some routine maintenance (I'm a mechanic by trade) I've discovered oil in my intake, from which I deduce my turbo is on the way out. I doubt it has been off the car since production, so it's no real surprise it's on the way out. Anyway, I have no real desire to chase big power out of the car (it's my daily driver and don't want to send my fuel costs through the roof) so I'm simply thinking of replacing the turbo with another stock turbo after getting it rebuilt. However, if I can, I'll stick another turbo onto the stock manifold and just keep the stock wastegate and run standard boost through it so I don't have to modify the stock computer and injectors. So! The question I'm asking is, can anyone put me onto a brand/make of turbo that I can simply bolt onto the existing manifold/dump pipe? Otherwise, I'll just chase down another stock turbo and rebuild it. Thanks guys. (p.s, if there is another thread with this information, put me in that direction and I'll delete this one) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Depends how much is in the intake mate. It's a common occourance as oil get out top of rocker covers and is fed back to inlet of turbo making it look bad. Maybe check shaft play of turbo and if its minimal up/down and no end float then its prob fine and its just 170k worth of accumulation Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6582187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moodles2 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Putting someone elses stock (ceramic) turbo on your car is taking a big risk, you don't know how it's been treated or how high boost they put through it. You're better off getting a turbo shop like Hypergear to highflow it and replace the ceramic wheel with metal ones. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6582467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bw33zy Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Where abouts are u? Im soon to upgrade my turbo, mine currently has the stock one on it with 85,000kms running 9psi. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6582481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrIrons Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 I'm near newcastle NSW. Just out of curiosity, what are you doing in terms of upgrade? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6582600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherring Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Just get a stock one highflowed by Hypergear, you can run it as the stock turbo if you want, or if you want to tune and boost up will make good power with good response, plus it's not a random ceramic that's going to blow up, it's a rebuilt steel wheel turbo, definite win. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6582729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrIrons Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Bw33zy, if your looking at getting rid of your old turbo soon then I'll take it and.get it high flowed. Looking around at prices of rebuilt OEM turbos so we'll see how that goes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6582756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bw33zy Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Bw33zy, if your looking at getting rid of your old turbo soon then I'll take it and.get it high flowed. Looking around at prices of rebuilt OEM turbos so we'll see how that goes. Okay sweet, well Im only just down on the central coast. I am looking to make around 250-270kw so will be possibly getting a hypergear turbo, nistune and supprting mods Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6582854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrIrons Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Another related question... can you just buy a new turbo with a t3 flange and bolt it on using the same actuator etc? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6582993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dose Pipe Sutututu Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Another related question... can you just buy a new turbo with a t3 flange and bolt it on using the same actuator etc? You could, but those ling long turbos off eBay are junk. Better off just getting an used high flow OEM turbo that is in decide nick or just send your turbo to hypergear and get it rebuilt for peanuts Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6583222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have a std r33 turbo with a dead front bearing you can have for cheap, make an offer, im on central coast Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6583765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrIrons Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Well when you say cheap, how cheap? Like $50? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6583772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yep that cheap will be fine... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6584129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVS JEZ Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 If u do get a highflowed turbo as the boys are suggesting the ecu will need to be upgraded, So it all depends on what ur plans are for the car on whether u should upgrade the turbo and ecu etc. As was said already the oil may be from the rocker cover breathers rather than the turbo seals themselves. I recommend cleaning all the piping and installing a catch can in between the rocker cover breathers and the turbo intake pipe, this will stop nearly all of the oil buildup. By all means tho if u wish to upgrade the turbo u should but within a few thousand km's theres a good chance the oil buildup will return to the intake Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6584158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrIrons Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 If u do get a highflowed turbo as the boys are suggesting the ecu will need to be upgraded, So it all depends on what ur plans are for the car on whether u should upgrade the turbo and ecu etc. As was said already the oil may be from the rocker cover breathers rather than the turbo seals themselves. I recommend cleaning all the piping and installing a catch can in between the rocker cover breathers and the turbo intake pipe, this will stop nearly all of the oil buildup. By all means tho if u wish to upgrade the turbo u should but within a few thousand km's theres a good chance the oil buildup will return to the intake Would an ecu upgrade be needed if I'm running.stock boost (7psi)? I wouldnt have thought so... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6584161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVS JEZ Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Last r33 i had come in was running very poorly due to r+r with the highflow. The r33 ecu's are very sensitive to airflow changes and get upset easily. Not saying u deintely will need it but just be aware its possible, But remember it may not need a new turbo just because of the oil in the intake pipe. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6584175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrIrons Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yeah I've gotta pull the intake off and check for shaft play before i do anything. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6584271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrIrons Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 Another question... Anyone ever put a Garrett GT3582R turbo on their RB25? I.e do they bolt up to the stock dump pipe? Can get ahold of one for around the same price as a highflow on my stock turbo. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6584955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dose Pipe Sutututu Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Another question... Anyone ever put a Garrett GT3582R turbo on their RB25? I.e do they bolt up to the stock dump pipe? Can get ahold of one for around the same price as a highflow on my stock turbo. lagggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg monster, and from other cars I've seen you will need a spacer plate, new lines and a 5x bolt dump to down pipe, not to mention the intake pipe will need to be modded or replaced Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6584992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Don't 3582 if its a daily. Will need plenty of supporting mods including Ecu. It's a huge turbo compared to stock Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411705-r33-stock-turbo-upgrade/#findComment-6584993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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