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[Kenna802]

I just been doing some research and found that phenibut can make people reliant on the drug and have some nasty side effects so everyone please be careful

[rev210]

I just been doing some research and found that phenibut can make people reliant on the drug and have some nasty side effects so everyone please be careful

Lets start by agreeing that anything that effects sleep is important to be careful with. Also , that almost anything we can eat may give certain people a reaction in a minority case.

I think your research needs some help. From what I can see , there is no 'real science' behind your statement. The research on the substance has been on-going for a long time and side effects are well documented.

Edited July 14, 2013 by rev210

[XGTRX]

I tried ronnie colemans resurrect pm but I think I have issues with the tryptophan in it as it gives me anxiety attacks ( I already take tryptophan during the day ) I have tried gh blast which has GABA included and that seems to help me alot better. Let me know how that powder works l33sh as at about $90 a tub of gh blast it sends me broke rather quick

You can get gaba cheap from bulknutients.com.au. together with arginine and glutamine I found it worked well. Good luck.

[Kenna802]

Just to get it straight the research I did was by google and alot of issues showed up. I have always had sleep issues and have found some to work straight away but only to have issues arising. The research I found was people begin to have to increase the drug in order for it to be effective but by than a lot of unwanted side effects came into play . I am not directing people not to take it only to be aware

[XGTRX]

Just to get it straight the research I did was by google and alot of issues showed up. I have always had sleep issues and have found some to work straight away but only to have issues arising. The research I found was people begin to have to increase the drug in order for it to be effective but by than a lot of unwanted side effects came into play . I am not directing people not to take it only to be aware

Yeah this is with a lot if things mate. Especially when we are looking natural support supplements. Best thing I found is to cycle off every 4-6 weeks. So I found if you find 2 things that work you cycle them so your body doesn't get accustomed to one thereby rendering it less effective.

[Kenna802]

I guess I have been unlucky. I have been on AD's for over 5 years ( all different types too ) I have taken a different approach and trying more natural stuff in order to be myself. The long term effects of AD's are rather unknown as the newer ones are not very nice to come off of that's for sure. One thing I do know is that how I sleep depicts how I am for the day. Most sleep aids tell you to only take 5 days out of 7 and yeah GH Blast seems to work the best for me but it is the priciest

Also if you are on any SNRI's and SSRI's ( Anti Depressants ) Tryptophan, GABA, Some Sleep Aids, Some cold and Flu tablets or anything that raises your Serotonin levels can cause " Serotonin Syndrome " which can be Very Very Nasty

I would just like to point out these are my experiences with what I have come across and mock me if you wish but are directed at people whom are in the same boat as me and would just like to share my experiences so they don't make the same mistake.

[rev210]

I would just like to point out these are my experiences with what I have come across and mock me if you wish but are directed at people whom are in the same boat as me and would just like to share my experiences so they don't make the same mistake.

no one is mocking you. Sharing your actual experiences are valuable. The most effective part of GH blast is the phenibut, the other component ingredients don't address the sleep. So the effectiveness of this experience you have had, is good for you to share. You have been effectively been taking phenibut.

Pure phenibut, would offer you a cost saving although sourcing and taste of product may be down sides for you.

[Kenna802]

Cheers for the advice guys I will look into the powders to save some coin . I have found prescribed sleep aids make you feel like u been on the piss all night. ( another thing I given up on the quest of life lol No alcohol for 6 months ). Gosh I have no life lol so been hitting the gym to try get myself in better shape although oddly enough I am shaped like a beer can anyways

[bozodos]

I've started taking GABA mainly for a trial - got it for the mrs who sleeps like crap.

So far so good, its been working really well on the two of us! The main problem is the danger of sleeping in!

[Kenna802]

Lesson number one DO NOT take myo blitz in the afternoon before the gym!!! Worst sleep ever I took it at 330pm and worked out for an hour and a half. was still wide awake well past midnight

[L33SH]

Lesson number one DO NOT take myo blitz in the afternoon before the gym!!! Worst sleep ever I took it at 330pm and worked out for an hour and a half. was still wide awake well past midnight

What's myo blitz?

[Kenna802]

Its a Pre Work out Supplement made by Ronnie Coleman. I get a lot of sachets sent to me and this one turned up so thought id give it a go. Bad Idea

[L33SH]

Its a Pre Work out Supplement made by Ronnie Coleman. I get a lot of sachets sent to me and this one turned up so thought id give it a go. Bad Idea

What's the caffeine content?

[Kenna802]

300mg I been looking at others that are only half that as usually by the end of the day im feeling pretty RS. Just got to get motivated to get up earlier in the mornings

[bozodos]

I found Myo Blitz to literally do nothing lol. Tasted like utter shit though!

I do agree on the not consuming caffeine at night thing though.

[Kenna802]

Your not wrong about the taste yuck !! Tried gh blast and a scoop of l-glutamine last night before bed. Slept like a log. Only woke up once with my stupid body clock saying its time to go to work at 530 No work today !!! Sore as hell from last 2 workouts though I found I get way too jittery with 300mg of caffeine it's hard for me to use it without shaking like a leaf

[mad082]

It would be interesting to hear people's coffee habits as well to see how that may be affecting their sleep, given that it stays in the system for quite a while

[Trozzle]

Mine's horrific. Caffeine has something like a 7 hour half life in the body apparently, so I at least try not to have any after lunch lol

[Kenna802]

Mine's horrific. Caffeine has something like a 7 hour half life in the body apparently, so I at least try not to have any after lunch lol

If that's the case that could explain a fair bit. I do notice if I have a coffee after 4-5pm I do stay awake longer during the night. That said when I was younger I could have a coffee half hour before bed and be out to it. ( always slept crap though )

[mad082]

Yeah and that is only the half life. a cup of coffee can affect the body for up to about 24 hours. So even the coffee you have before work can affect your sleep that night.