R34 Issue. Engine Keeps Running After Removing Key?

[iwanta34gtr]

Hi All,

I just had some paint work done on my R34 GTR and since I picked it up, when I remove the key from the ignition, the car does not turn off and the engine keeps running.

When I picked it up I noticed the engine bay was very wet, so when they hosed the engine bay not sure if they have caused a short or if this is irrelevant.

To turn the car off, I have been putting it in to a stall, and when the key is removed the car stays in 'reds', lights on in the dash as if the key was half turned. And it eventually turns off after a few minutes.

Confirmed with the shop that the battery has not gone flat, they have not had to jump start - etc.

Would appreciate any direction as to what could be causing this.

Cheers.

[Sinista32]

Just an uneducated guess.

Water pooled in the wires/connectors under the main fuse box in the engine bay causing a connection to remain live even though turned off.

Perhaps the use of a hair drier on warm in that area and/or some WD40 to displace any remaining water.

I expect over time it will return to normal if it is water related. However I would want it working as it should now.

What a pain mate.

Question: What did they paint ?

[GTRsean]

Turbo timer??

Decided to work after not working?

[Hadouken]

Sounds an awful like a turbo timer. If it was a continuous short it would stay on forever.

[Hadouken]

Damn. Got beat

[GTRsean]

Damn. Got beat

heh heh heh (in evil laugh!!)

[iwanta34gtr]

Thanks guys for such a quick response and your help.

I took the car to Carbon Car Systems in blacktown this morning and you are right. Quick diagnosis confirmed that it was the turbo timer in the alarm which had been activated. (Which I did not even know the alarm had so was a welcome surprise).

Painters must have accidently activated it with the remote when the car was in their posession and the feature is set to stay on until disabled with the remote.

Cheers.

[Akshunhiro]

What alarm is it? Mongoose's new models have turbo timer built-in. Default is 2 minutes though, maximum is 5. Should turn off after 2 minutes if programming hasn't been changed. To disable, you normally press button 3 with the car running and you'll hear the siren chirp to confirm whether it's on or off.

[Sinista32]

FTW - editied it out my post because I didnt want to insult intelligence - DOH!!

[xntrq]

on a related topic, are alarms with inbuilt turbo timers legal?

[Hadouken]

No

[SilverECR33]

No

thats friggin gay, everything is illegal in australia. Might as well just stay in bed. soon that will be illegal too.

[Serpandrew]

Have you got a mongoose m80?

I know its been resolved but for future reference all you do is put the key in and turn it to on, then press "button 3" on the remote and it beeps once or twice going through turbo timer on/off function. Can't remember which is which though.

[mad082]

thats friggin gay, everything is illegal in australia. Might as well just stay in bed. soon that will be illegal too.

Turbo timers are illegal because it is illegal to leave a car running whilst not in it. This makes sense as it isn't safe having a locked car running, because if it was to somehow get knocked into gear it would just drive off. It is also safer to have a car parked both in gear and with the handbrake on. Turbo timers being illegal was never about spoiling import owners fun.

[Serpandrew]

It's interesting that there is a turbo timer function on an ADR approved alarm

[MagicMikeZ32]

You should not be able to arm the alarm/immob while the timer is still running.

[Serpandrew]

The M80 doesn't, you can hold the remote button down for about 2 sec and it locks the doors and beeps as usual, but the immob/sensors only activate after the engine shuts off.

[Hadouken]

I believe a ADR classification says that the alarm has to have a certain amount of function/protection.

As stated by the insurance company.

It has to have multiple points of immobilisation

Black wiring

Central locking

Motion/disruption sensors

Automatic immobilisation if the car is left unattended

And some other things i cant remember.

This information was given from justcar when i asked them what classes a adr approved alarm.

[Serpandrew]

I believe a ADR classification says that the alarm has to have a certain amount of function/protection.

As stated by the insurance company.

It has to have multiple points of immobilisation

Black wiring

Central locking

Motion/disruption sensors

Automatic immobilisation if the car is left unattended

And some other things i cant remember.

This information was given from justcar when i asked them what classes a adr approved alarm.

Makes more sense

Must be fun to wire them up with all black wiring

[Hadouken]

Lol they have labels that you tear off