All The E85 Luv But So Little United Stuff In Sydney ?

[Mick_o]

+1 for new tuna! Lol ive ran both my 33 & now my evo 9 on eflex without a ethanol content sensor without a drama EVER

[JimmyRickard]

Why? Is all e85 the same? Including United?

[scotty nm35]

No, they all vary slightly... But it makes very little difference to your tune.

If you tune on the leaner fuel (United) it will run fine on any e85. (Caltex, Powerplus, Drum e85.)

I have been running various e85 fuels over the last 4-5 years with 20 or more tunes, some very lean, some rich. I had quite a few issues during that time that should have blown my engine, like wastegate lines popping off (running over 50psi) and fuel reg/map sensor hoses leaking vac, leaning the tune out to 20:1 on cruise. It still ran fine, no melted pistons or det.

It really is the ultimate fuel for turbo cars, no matter what pump it comes from.

[Dahtone Racing]

Smithfield Rd. United also has E85 now

Happy Days.

[JimmyRickard]

No, they all vary slightly... But it makes very little difference to your tune.

If you tune on the leaner fuel (United) it will run fine on any e85. (Caltex, Powerplus, Drum e85.)

Thanks for the reply. The reason I ask your opinion is that out of the three tuners I have spoken with, two of them have been adament about using either an eflex sensor as Caltex and United's ethanol content can wildly vary, or sourcing from a racing supplier to ensure the ethanol content remains consistent.

So basically what your saying is that regardless of variations of ethanol content, one tune on United e85 is enough to cover the variation in ethanol based pump fuel, and the variation in ethanol content won't damage my engine regardless?

EDIT: This is for a track car only if that makes any difference. Also don't plan to be running huge amount of boost either.

[XKLABA]

Pete, while your at it any chance you can get a cost for E100

[Mick_o]

Its true that the ethanol content can vary a fair bit but if the tune is safe on the highest content of ethanol eg united stuff can go up to e90 anything thats got more petrol in it eg e70 etc your car will only run richer which wont hurt your engine anyways. Mate speak to Yavuz at unigroup engineering give him your car and never worry about ethanol content or any of the other rubbish these other "tuners" have been feeding you

Hes tuned both my cars both drive amazing have great fuel economy and have NEVER died

[NYTSKY]

Had my car tuned on united over 4 years ago and I have never had a drama with it.

My tuner has tuned literally hundreds of cars on e85, a lot of cars making 1000+hp and united is always the fuel of choice.

[SoFly]

Smithfield Rd. United also has E85 now

Happy Days.

Was this just recent? very local!

[scotty nm35]

Thanks for the reply. The reason I ask your opinion is that out of the three tuners I have spoken with, two of them have been adament about using either an eflex sensor as Caltex and United's ethanol content can wildly vary, or sourcing from a racing supplier to ensure the ethanol content remains consistent.

So basically what your saying is that regardless of variations of ethanol content, one tune on United e85 is enough to cover the variation in ethanol based pump fuel, and the variation in ethanol content won't damage my engine regardless?

EDIT: This is for a track car only if that makes any difference. Also don't plan to be running huge amount of boost either.

Exactly. The only reason you would need an ethanol content sensor is if you plan to run petrol one day and e85 the next, without draining the tank.

A 10% ethanol variation is only a 2% fuel variation, and perhaps 1/2 an AFR point. As long as it goes richer not leaner there will be no issue at the track or on the road. Sourcing race fuel in drums will only help lighten your wallet.

Why won't you be running much boost? My stock VQ loves track days at 30psi...

[r32-25t]

Smithfield Rd. United also has E85 now

Happy Days.

thats awesome news right around the corner from where my Gtr lives

[Blackkers]

Who in sydney is famous for tuning on E85? I'd like to hear some feedback from the people. How does Nistune go for E85?

I have to upgrade my fuel system before I get tuned regardless which fuel I run so E85 is looking good. Also the United at Dee Why sells it and I have an empty 200L drum in the garage

[r32-25t]

Most of the tuners do it now, jem have a good reputation on it or if you happy to go north a little dvsjez has some great results and will go the extra mile to make sure it's right

[dori34]

Smithfield Rd. United also has E85 now

Happy Days.

wow that's great! happy days indeed

[PRO_32]

Every time I've checked ethanol content at dee why it's been in the 70's

[usmair]

Smithfield has a united with e85 now too

just above post.... derp

Edited September 10, 2013 by usmair

[Dahtone Racing]

Bass HIll United on Hume Highway also has E85 now

[scotty nm35]

Why would you stick another ethanol pump right near the other stations? The map shows they are all stacked into the same area of Sydney...

[Piggaz]

Why would you stick another ethanol pump right near the other stations? The map shows they are all stacked into the same area of Sydney...

Save on transport costs maybe.... Lol. Clowns!

[discopotato03]

I mentioned to SK when the new "Yagoona" United servo got E85 and he reckoned that a while back when the price of all fuels was really high in Sydney the dough was going into new tanks that are ethanol compatible .

I agree it's easy enough to tune for E70-E85 and the only disadvantage is you'd use more fuel with the higher petrol contend mix . If you were tuned to run exclusively E70 and the light load and cruise mixtures were set for economical running it's real easy to bump E85 up to E70 . Assuming they are 15% different that's a whole 8.25 litres of petrol in a 55L tank so if you were dry adding that then filling with E85 is no drama . Close enough to 2L per 1/4 tank .

I was reading recently that late flex fuel cars don't use these sensors and if that's the case they must have really sophisticated oxygen sensing and knock sensor systems and the ability to self learn really fast .

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