All The E85 Luv But So Little United Stuff In Sydney ?

[whizzn]

There was mention of fuel absorbing water and rusting injectors in non daily cars so just clarifying

[scotty nm35]

So my understanding of this thread is that this fuel isn't recommended for non daily driven cars?

My cars lucky to be driven once a month sometimes, would this cause the fuel to go off?

If you ran 98 it could go off... I don't know how you got that information out of this thread.

Yes, there is a chance the fuel could absorb water, so make sure you don't stick the hose in the fuel tank.

[Blackkers]

There was mention of fuel absorbing water and rusting injectors in non daily cars so just clarifying

I think you must have read what I wrote. Toshi tuned my car and when I asked about E85 he said its no good for a weekender (or less). I'm just going off what he said to me; water absorb = more chance of knock & potential to rust injectors if the car sits. I don't know anyone who's had that problem and I'm not going to let it worry me at all.

I'm tuning on e85 later this year because everyone seems to love the extra knock protection, lower EGTs, Higher power and it's readily accessible for me so why not!

[Mick_o]

^^^ ummmmm dont listen to Toshi

My weekenders have sat for weeks to a month full of E85 for around 4 years with no problems..

[Reese69]

i odnt no about E85 going off - i asked the same thing and he said he has a rally car that lives at the work shop and comes out jumps on the dyno for a check every 6 months or so or before meets and the e85 levels never drop and is still running after 5+ years of competing - - thats his experience anyway - i have just been told not to let it sit in plastic containers

[Toshi]

I think you must have read what I wrote. Toshi tuned my car and when I asked about E85 he said its no good for a weekender (or less). I'm just going off what he said to me; water absorb = more chance of knock & potential to rust injectors if the car sits. I don't know anyone who's had that problem and I'm not going to let it worry me at all.

I'm tuning on e85 later this year because everyone seems to love the extra knock protection, lower EGTs, Higher power and it's readily accessible for me so why not!

My customer used E85 and he did not drive 2weeks then his car start engine knock (He could not hear knock but his ecu is power fc so he can see how many knocks).

He refill E85 then stop engine knock.

I think fuel pump and injecter is not problem.

[scotty nm35]

I've had zero issues. If the engine is knocking on ethanol something is very wrong, mine will cruise on 20:1 without ping. Going by the PFC for knock doesn't sound very accurate...

Unless it was a bad batch of ethanol? I usually buy from high turnover servo's but I have never had an issue with this either. (and I have filled many hundreds of times)

[hy_rpm]

Depends where you buy your e85 from

I've heard of a few united servos now having bad batches of fuel where the e85 has dissolved everything in the servo tank coming out like rust water blocking pumps and injectors to the point where the car won run

Caltex eflex haven't had issues ever

Is that what you run micko?

[scotty nm35]

Sounds like they never upgraded the tank at the servo then, which is very illegal. Caltex would have the same issue with the old steel tanks, but they were obviously a lot more proactive with their rollout.

[Mick_o]

Yes mate been on eflex for ages with zero issues

Depends where you buy your e85 from

I've heard of a few united servos now having bad batches of fuel where the e85 has dissolved everything in the servo tank coming out like rust water blocking pumps and injectors to the point where the car won run

Caltex eflex haven't had issues ever

Is that what you run micko?

[Deano 1]

I was reading some yanky info on e85 the other day, and it mentioned that when installing fuel pumps in tank to insure that the terminals on the pumps and line had a non conductive cover or coating over them, because e85 is a conductive fuel and can short out in the tank and create fire.

Is that true I've never heard of anything like it before?

[Ben C34]

There is no oxygen in the tank, so no chance of a fire. Science! Anyway, my car exploding is of no concern to me if it goes faster

[Mick_o]

Exactly! Even if it did you got more power to drive away faster to extinguish flames

There is no oxygen in the tank, so no chance of a fire. Science! Anyway, my car exploding is of no concern to me if it goes faster

[scotty nm35]

I was reading some yanky info on e85 the other day, and it mentioned that when installing fuel pumps in tank to insure that the terminals on the pumps and line had a non conductive cover or coating over them, because e85 is a conductive fuel and can short out in the tank and create fire.

Is that true I've never heard of anything like it before?

Lol. Mythbuster that shit.

The only way it becomes conductive afaik is when water is added. Probably best to just use the sealed Walbro 460L e85 pump to be safe.

I would think after 5 years on ethanol in my daily I would have dispelled most of the myths surrounding it, my car has not caught fire ever, the Walbro 255's are still running strong, and the fuel tank hasn't rusted away. I have also never cleaned the fuel filter...

[hy_rpm]

Even if it was to short it won't catch on fire cause no oxygen and fuse would blow for safety

[Deano 1]

I've got twin Nismos don't want to change them.

Yea I just thought it was a strange thing for them to say.

Cheers boys

[FordyR31]

Haven't read through the thread. United at North Richmond now has E85.

Have now read through, it was around $1.22/L last week when I asked about it.

Edited October 12, 2013 by FordyR31

[wolverine]

I was reading some yanky info on e85 the other day, and it mentioned that when installing fuel pumps in tank to insure that the terminals on the pumps and line had a non conductive cover or coating over them, because e85 is a conductive fuel and can short out in the tank and create fire.

Is that true I've never heard of anything like it before?

There is no oxygen in the tank, so no chance of a fire. Science! Anyway, my car exploding is of no concern to me if it goes faster

I am pretty sure there is oxygen present during installation of the pump.

I say plausible.

[discopotato03]

There will be air in the tank above the fuel but the vapour generally isn't as flammable in an enclosed space as people sometimes think .

The worry would be what was causing arcing across the electrical connections that may be exposed inside the fuel tank .

You'd think a pump drawing 18-20 amps would be more likely to do this than one drawing 8.6 amps .

[Blackkers]

does the walbro 460 e85 pump really draw 18-20 amps? also is it noisey at all?