Ants Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Indeed that sucks balls How did that happen Robbie? Did it occur at high revs or just normal driving? I think that further investigation why it flew went off is warranted before you go ahead and acquire another harmonic balancer. Ross Tuffbond balancers (metal jacket types) are renowned for spitting belts. Also, there plenty of members that run standard / OEM harmonic balancer Robbie and don't throw any belts - food for thought. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7218297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzadub Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Yes, but a standard balancer isn't going to provide the same harmonic damping protection to the engine as a metal jacket, especially at higher horsepower levels that what the original damper was designed for. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7218304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelone Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I think you'd be surprised actually at how good the OEM balancers are. They're not much good when they're 20 years old but a new one is still a very good bit of gear. 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7218312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzadub Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Good point - but ignoring the belt issue, are they AS good at harmonic dampening as the Metal Jacket? If the Metal Jacket is even slightly better then is it not a worthwhile precaution, especially on an all out build? Again, assuming that the belt issue was not a factor. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7218317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ants Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Yes, but a standard balancer isn't going to provide the same harmonic damping protection to the engine as a metal jacket, especially at higher horsepower levels that what the original damper was designed for.I agree, however Robbie's car is not a drag machine and I don't think a harmonic balancer is entirely mandatory in his situation. Just my opinion. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7218318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzadub Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 A better balancer should help prolong the life of the oil pump, even under normal driving conditions, so surely that's a good enough reason in itself to use the best balancer you can get? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7218326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinista32 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 My 2 cents for what it is worth. OEM up to 500hp. ATI over 500hp. and then there is special applications which I have no clue about 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7218700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 There is a thread in the forced induction section, enough examples in the thread to warrant a change to ati or OEM Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7218783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
$$slowmedown Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 There is also another MJ revision 306202X2 which I'd say is version 2 of yours, which could save you having to go to an underdriven pulley? Does the P/S pulley look different on this one compared to yours? Could be a better option than an ugly extra pulley? Actually my p/s pulley is already under driven. I do have a spare one of the above so I will check for any differences. Yeh that extra tensioner set up looks like dogs balls! Thanks again for the input mate, appreciate it. I threw a few gates belts with my metal jacket on my 26/30 between 5/6000rpm with 330rwhp went to Bosch belt and haven't had any more issues Interesting. Thanks Indeed that sucks balls How did that happen Robbie? Did it occur at high revs or just normal driving? I think that further investigation why it flew went off is warranted before you go ahead and acquire another harmonic balancer. Ross Tuffbond balancers (metal jacket types) are renowned for spitting belts. Also, there plenty of members that run standard / OEM harmonic balancer Robbie and don't throw any belts - food for thought. Yeh at high RPM, no less than 7,000...New belt is on and will be watched closely! Seems to be the case Ants. Will be working with 'the rock' (mechanic) and no doubt we will have it sorted soon There is a thread in the forced induction section, enough examples in the thread to warrant a change to ati or OEM Thanks Simon, have now read through this. See what happens...as always time will tell So got a few more shots in on Sunday, will get the rest up over next couple of days 3 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7219348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzadub Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Looks epic, so envious! 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7219372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzadub Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Have you seen this brochure? http://www.downloads.gtr.org.uk/Brochures/R32GTR>S4.pdf If you could track down a real one it would be a good addition to put in the glovebox! 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7219391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clenvoyant Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I remember around when you first posted this thread, having forgotten about it and come back I got to say your title was not a lie. Good stuff Robbie, love ya work mate. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7219550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtr judd Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 That last picture is spot on! 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7219795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
$$slowmedown Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Looks epic, so envious! Have you seen this brochure? http://www.downloads.gtr.org.uk/Brochures/R32GTR>S4.pdf If you could track down a real one it would be a good addition to put in the glovebox! I have thanks mate, will keep an eye out, if anyone sees one come up please let me know I remember around when you first posted this thread, having forgotten about it and come back I got to say your title was not a lie. Good stuff Robbie, love ya work mate. Ahhh cheers Patrick, appreciate that mate. That last picture is spot on! Happy someone noticed, my favourite as well Judd, surprise myself sometimes 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7220539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunus Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Can you buy another GTR and start another project haha! 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7220701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtr judd Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Happy someone noticed, my favourite as well Judd, surprise myself sometimes I can always appreciate good pictures, but can't take a decent one to save my life lol This looks like its a magazine shoot. Tops 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7220822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
$$slowmedown Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Can you buy another GTR and start another project haha! CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7224847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinista32 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 2 of A interesting to see what would be done differently 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7224870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ants Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!! car needs badges Robbie. +1 on 2 of A Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7225138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32GOJIRA Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 The only badge it needs is a nice new R35 GTR boot badge Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/414162-bnr32-once-in-a-lifetime-build-all-gt-r-owners-must-see/page/26/#findComment-7225143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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