Formula 1 2013

[GTR-N1]

hamo pulling into the mclaren pits for a reunion deserves some consideration

That'll be hard to live down lol

[Roy]

I am still fuming about this! 3 weeks until Webber can get his anrey 2010 on and use this as his tackling fuel. The more I think about it the more I believe that Vettel needs formal dressing down.

To antagonise Mark is all part of the game and thats fine. to beat him sux but is the sport. To go against the team management...Newey's reaction to what he was saying spoke volumes about the mood of the team. The only way to drive it home to the brat is wither beat him with a stick or where it hurts...in the WDC. I think they shoudl bench him for a race or at a minimum make him sit out P1 and give Buemi the Friday practice session

[dezz]

I love how all the webber fans are crying about this saga, majority of them them being the same people that teared up anytime Ferrari used team orders.

And before you waste your time typing, its the same thing. Team orders.

[JAS-25T]

Webber sulked like the little bitch that he is within the RB team.
"multi 21 seb, multi 21" like a little bitch.

that is why he will never win a WDC, cause he doesn't have the cnut in him that sebvet has.

was awesome to see the MW rendition of the finger though ahahaha

[ctjet]

[GTR-N1]

"Sorry" one minute > "Did nothing wrong" the next

[FineLine]

Weber knew where he stood in the pecking order and so does vettel, If the shoe were on the other foot you can bet weber would be keelhauled or worse.

He needs to man up and knock the justin beiber lookalike clean out and flip the bird as he walks from redbull.

[ctjet]

[hrd-hr30]

to me, 2 exact same situations one with the team outcome one with the selfish outcome.

Hamilton told to slow down to conserve petrol, rosberg told not to over take and did the team thing

Webber told "21" and conserve your car, Vettel ignores the request and acts selfeshly.

Two different teams, two very different outcomes.

Selfish, selfish man.

For my money, I'm less pissed off about two guys racing to the flag against team orders than the ridiculous situation at Mercedes where team orders force a much faster guy to sit behind the much slower team-mate for the last 20 minutes. I came here to see a race FFS. Calling the race 'over' at two-thirds or three-quarter distance is a farce. If the top 4 are going to do that you might as well drop the chequer early and end the stage show.

[sh@un]

http://i.imgur.com/IPzrgWm.jpg

perfect

[Kinks]

to me, 2 exact same situations one with the team outcome one with the selfish outcome.

Hamilton told to slow down to conserve petrol, rosberg told not to over take and did the team thing

Webber told "21" and conserve your car, Vettel ignores the request and acts selfeshly.

Two different teams, two very different outcomes.

Selfish, selfish man.

Just goes to show you have to be a ruthless flamin mongrel to be a WDC. Malaysia was a perfect example of why Vettel has multiple WDC, Webber has none and Rosberg will never have any in the future. In F1 if you play the team game you don't have the "win at all costs" mentality and you won't clean up a title unless everyone else falls on their swords.

I feel sorry for Mark, Vettel is an out and out dickhead and deserves a punch in the face or to be put in the wall next race but 25 points is what counts at the end of the year. RBR won't give him any more than a slap on the wrist.

[Roy]

I don't want to believe you need to be a c0ckbag to be WDC. I know DC was too nice and Mika a bit of a vilian when it came to team politics. I think the talk around the traps at Jagua and Williams was that Mark was up for a bit og mind games with teammates,

Thinking back Button was about the only recent WDC that isnt a egomaniac. Before that I think you have to look at Hill...not many

[MattR]

http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/22058/8594521/In-full-The-2013-Malaysian-GP-post-race-press-conference

A bit of light reading

[DattoP510]

my two cents worth, SV landed a sucker punch on MW while his guard was down, it wont happen again.

MW now has an extra motivation for 2013 - deny SV another WDC

[gts-4 dreamer]

Lets play a what if game, Vetel may or may not have caught him if he hadn't slowed down, but if he did catch him, they had a bloody good race and vetel did win that unless mark was given the heave ho after trading places. They could have raced to the end and we would of had more of what was real racing! RBR wouldn't do that because of the constructors and why web probably fell back a bunch.

You could even ask why was mark put onto the harder compounds twice in a row, especially for the last stint. But whatever. I hate team orders! if you didn't fuel one to the end you shouldn't keep the other behind just because he's your bloody favorite. The employment contracts seem to be determining who places where, I get that its a really set / fixed formula and not formula libre but still... what the hell.

[Tangles]

Just read the news.... ouch.

In soccer, individuals & teams (clubs on the whole, from top to bottom) get into serious trouble for match fixing. Q: Why is F1 so different?

Time to follow a new team I think; Lotus? Where's Nissan?

But quietly hoping MW fires up, does his own thing (ie fuc* orders!) before moving to a different team, and smashes the Tool in WDC points by the end of the year.....

[Roy]

I think the Hamilton thing probably has less to do with team orders and being No.1 and more to do with the fact that there are probably clauses in Hamiltons contract that state unless he is able to score X points over a season he can walk. He would be mad to take a multi year deal without some sort of perforamance clause so suspect Ross is happier to pull a few punches to make sure Hamo gets points and contractually cant walk

[essay]

Dream scenario:

Webber says GF to RB, hello the Fez, try it again Beebs without the shackles.

[hrd-hr30]

You could even ask why was mark put onto the harder compounds twice in a row, especially for the last stint. But whatever.

Clearly heard him on the team radio befor ethe last pit stop saying he preferred the Hards.

[dezz]

MW now has an extra motivation for 2013 - deny SV another WDC

If that wasn't already his motivation for the year (ie win the WDC himself) he's in the wrong sport. Every driver out there wants to win the WDC. Period.

Loving the conspiracy theories...Surely people posting in here know that the driver has the biggest say in tyre choice etc.