Formula 1 2013

[ctjet]

didnt this happen a few years ago too?

i mean, with the money these people throw around, spending more than 12 bucks for trophies seems like a reasonable request

[sh@un]

Seriously though, Webber losing a fcking wheel...

How bad is his pit team? They seriously do not want him at red bull anymore. It's blatantly obvious.

more tinfoil-hattery

seriously, shit just 'happens' in racing

[macdog]

This is formula 1 though!!! Wouldn't that piss you off?

[wolverine]

It is Formula1 and RBR's effort was McLaren-esque if the last few years are any guide. The left rear rears its ugly head again.

[raZ1911]

This is formula 1 though!!! Wouldn't that piss you off?

Marks whole F1 career has been bad luck and his cars messing up on him so i think hes used to it now.

[macdog]

probably right... If he went to ferrari do you think he'd have a better chance??

[FineLine]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor-sport/australian-mark-webber-signs-five-year-deal-to-drive-for-porsche/story-fnec3tzi-1226620441226

[sh@un]

This is formula 1 though!!! Wouldn't that piss you off?

sure would, if it was my team

despite everyone's best efforts though, trying to change all four wheels on a car in sub-3 seconds is bound to lead to issues occasionally no matter how much money you're spending

[Owgasm]

Especially when you're relying on humans.

[sh@un]

indeed

[89CAL]

Yes ^^^

Your not working on your car out in the backyard, spending 5 mins putting a wheel on, checking its all good etc

Conspiricy theroys are fun too but

[dezz]

RBR is sabotaging their own constructors championship campaign.

Are people that f**king stupid?

[89CAL]

RBR is sabotaging their own constructors championship campaign.

Are people that f**king stupid?

What I was trying to say on the last page

[ctjet]

well there you go

[hrd-hr30]

yep - there you go. Even if you remember nothing from the early days of Schumacher's career, its clear from the numbers alone that Vettel is doing it from a more dominant car in an era with a more generous points system. Schuey with less than half the number of pole positions scores more podiums, and the same number of wins but less championships.

it's 82 top three finishes from 103 races and 2 championships

vs 75 top three finishes from 103 races and 3 championships

almost 10% more top three finishes (9.33% to be precise)

Its a dodgy comparison. (If you ignore both driver's debut forcing their way into an F1 seat with a team fro a single GP, Schumacher with Jordan and Vettel with BMW) Schumacher started off with the 'best-of-the-midfield-teams', Benetton, sticking with them for 4 years as part of the team that took them from that 'best-of-the-midfield-teams' status to multiple Constructer's Champions. Vettel jumped ship from Torro Rosso after 2yrs into the Red Bull at the time it became not just competitive, but won over a third of the GPs, and was the dominant car by the end of the season. And he stayed put ever since in the dominant car.

Schumacher had won his two WDC's by his 69th race then took the bold decision to move to Ferrari, who were consistently below the level of the top 2 teams, despite having just won the last two consecutive WDC with Benetton, who retained the same Renault V10 and the same technical team headed by Brawn while Shumacher left on his own. So 30% of Schumacher's races at that point were in the building phase with Ferrari. You don't see Vettel doing anything like that! He stayed put with the winning team and kept racking up the stats. It would have been like Vettel jumping ship from Red Bull at the end of the 2010 season to Mercedes... where would his stats be now? lol

Edited April 16, 2013 by hrd-hr30

[ctjet]

The why's and how's are irrelevant. Its the results that matter. Isnt that right schui fans!

That's all these schui queers ever hung their hat on. Ever seen those tshirts that these people wear with all his 'numbers' on the back? pole/wins/etc. You think half of them even know he won two titles in a Benetton? Negro please

Nobody cares how it was done, only that it was done at all. Now these same people are getting butthurt that Seb is going to start knocking off some of these numbers and claiming them for himself. And rightly so. The guy is pretty damn good, and so is his team.

Webber had the same car as Seb has had for the last 4 years? wheres his poles/wins/WDC's?! Fcuking. Nowhere.

I still don't think that Seb will be a 7 time champ, or even get to 91 wins, but what he has accomplished still stands as an extraordinary achievement, worthy of comparison with the best

[hrd-hr30]

I've always been a fan of Vettel. The debut with BMW was impressive, as were his wet performances with Torro Rosso, including their only GP win. He is very good, and it is nice he's matched Schuey's wins at this stage of their careers, even if he did have to stay with the dominant team for 4 years to do it.

SV himself has said himself he's all about racking up the stats and records. That clearly wasn't the way Schumacher went racing... everyone thought he was mad leaving the multiple championship winning team for Ferrari.

quick question - was this stat from before or after Malaysia? lol

Edited April 16, 2013 by hrd-hr30

[wolverine]

Why's and How's do matter.

I would rather be considered the second best driver of all time like Schuey will be, than be remembered because I had the best equipment and I was the biggest prick.

[djr81]

Why's and How's do matter.

I would rather be considered the second best driver of all time like Schuey will be, than be remembered because I had the best equipment and I was the biggest prick.

They are both the same. Pricks with the best equipment. Most world champions are exactly that.*

Please note: This in no way excuses Vettool from being a pole smoking *%$#. Or Schumacher for that matter.

[Rimonskii]

Is it true that webber is leaving f1 to join porshe for Le Mans next year??