Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Perez was taking the pi55...so far back and just lunging at the apex. How many times did he have to take to the run off, let alone force the other guy wide?

Romain pork chopped it again last night? But at least he was close enough to Dan to take alunge as he was right there....just messed it up. Perez was just sailing up the inside knowing others woudl jump out of the way rather than be punted. He had several goes at Kimi so good on Kimi for cruising up to the apex

how many times did Perez take the run off while trying to pass? once that I recall on Kimi. End result - no harm, no foul. Big deal. Monaco is an exceptionally difficult place to pass... lol at "just lunging for the apex" - hitting the apex isn't exactly bungling it all up! And any pass under brakes is a big lunge anyway...

Perez made good clean passes on Alonso and Button there, fully alongside under brakes and made the turn no problem, as did Button on Perez. The second attempt on Kimi wasn't going to work anyway - he wasn't far enough up alongside. Kimi didn't need to run him into the wall in the braking area. Kimi wasn't turning into the apex, he was just squeezing Perez into the wall. I guess Kimi wanted Perez to evaporate into thin air or something, because when you're fully committed & braking on the limit you can't stop any harder if the other guy fails to leave a car width in the braking zone. That was Kimi being a douche, not Perez.

post-15659-0-58594100-1369625803_thumb.jpg

Edited by hrd-hr30

Perez wasnt far enough up the side for Kimi to be required to give him room. In this case you are allowed to take the racing line. Perez knows this and should not have been trying to push into a gap that was forever going to close

Perez's move on Alonso was borderline but I think they got it right. All Perez's other moves werent. The move on Button, while legal etc, was stupid from a team perspective. He was driving the track like it was Bahrain, not Monaco. McLaren need to rain him in a bit I think

perez is on a mission to prove a point that he's better than Button.

well not anymore after last nights performance.

a well deserved last place for the stunt you pulled on Kimi ya idiot.

although his pass on Button, was good, but i still hate him.

kimi to stay at Lotus for 2014, kick out grosjean and take in Webber.

Grosjean to....

massa to.....

maybe they just go to GT racing like kobyashi

lol

Massa's crash was a technical failure, not a driver error...

Perez wasnt far enough up the side for Kimi to be required to give him room. In this case you are allowed to take the racing line. Perez knows this and should not have been trying to push into a gap that was forever going to close

that's nowhere near the racing line! Once he's committed, he can't stop any harder. Leaving no room for a car between you and the wall is only going to end in a collision. Perez can't evaporate into thin air. You can't run somone off the road in a braking area if there is an overlap.

Edited by hrd-hr30

Even so, there was no need for him to have another go after the chicane.

While I cant say it was smart for Kimi to turn in as hard as he did, I dont think he is to blame. Perez was trying the same move he pulled off on Button, from way to far back.

It all just means the closest contender to Vettel has just lost alot of ground in the WC. Lucky Vettel didn't win the thing

I'd be happy to see Kimi at Red Bull, if Vettel wasnt there. Having said that, the Lotus I think is the stronger car right now, and Lotus I think has taken over from Red Bull as being the 'fun' team of F1 at the moment.

The Grosjean crash, I'm interested to see the in-car footage. It seems a rather odd incident

The racing line is the other side of the track. The Merc is coming from the racing line in this first pic. And this is where Kimi starts squeezing Perez.

Once Perez was going down the inside he was braking on the limit - the laws of physics says he can't "slot back in". To do that he would need to brake harder than he already is, which is simply not possible. There were a couple of little pinches of lock-ups from the fronts as it was.

Also added an in-car pic showing Kimi "somewhat" closing the door. Not sure how narrow he thinks a McLaren is, but he got it wrong.

Perez wasn't in far enough to claim the corner, but he is entitled to room on the straight! All Kimi had to do was leave room there and turn-in to make the apex at the right hand part of the chicane and he keeps his position. If Perez hits him while cornering like that it would be Perez's fault. When Kimi runs him into the wall, quite obviously before the corner, there is nothing Perez can do to avoid it.

post-15659-0-08506700-1369634699_thumb.jpg

post-15659-0-94336800-1369634726_thumb.jpg

Edited by hrd-hr30

After much analysis, i apportion this 60/40 (kimi/perez)

Almost even responsibility, but kimi has clearly taken a very shallow apex with a disregard for the width of a competitor in a strange attempt to hold position

No penalties are required, just some of the fun that is Monaco

Who doesn't like like a bit of biff

Kimi absolutely squeezed him. He was never going to get it done on that lap from where he was trying. Kimi did increase the likelihood of contact but Kimi needed to do something otherwise he was just going to launch silly attack after silly attack until they ended up in a proper crash or just a comedy of being forced off the track. So I think Kimi tried to pull his chain by waltzing up to the apex. Not the racing line but is free to take the corner as shallow as he wants as the car with track position.

I rate Perez for having a go but it was LOOOSE...and I personally think he is driving like he has nothing left to give and is desperate to try and get a turn of speed. Strange as early on he was nowhere which is to be expected in new car and team but now is driving like he wants to go into the wall again and miss Canada for a second time

Kimi Raikkonen has hit out at Sergio Perez after his "stupid move" in Monaco cost the Lotus driver vital points in the Championship.

"It was a really disappointing day," said Raikkonen.

"Because of one stupid move from Sergio we've lost a lot of points to Sebastian in the Championship and you can't afford to lose ground like that.

"He hit me from behind and that's about all there is to it.

"If he thinks it's my fault that he came into the corner too fast then he obviously has no idea what he's talking about.

"It's not the first time he's hit someone in the race; he seems to expect people to be always looking at what he might do, then move over or go straight on if he comes into the corner too quick and isn't going to make it without running into someone.

"Not the ideal weekend but there's nothing we can do about it. At least we got one point back at the end."

Perez, however, believes Raikkonen was to blame for the accident.

"It was risky, but there was nothing I could to avoid the crash," said the McLaren driver.

"I overtook Fernando and Jenson in the same place, so at the end of the day you have to give some space.

"If you look at the accident I hit the wall on entry of the corner, so Kimi gave me no room at all and there was nothing I could do to avoid it.

"If someone could have avoided the accident then it was Kimi and not myself.

"At the end I was very unfortunate when I overheated the brakes, so that was main issue.

"I tried my best during what was a very difficult race. It's racing, sometimes things come off, sometimes they don't."

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/8737937/Raikkonen-hits-out-at-Perez

Romain Grosjean has been hit with a grid penalty following his accident with Daniel Ricciardo at the Monaco Grand Prix.

Grosjean was handed a 10-place grid penalty for the Canadian Grand Prix.

His Lotus team-mate Kimi Raikkonen was also in hot water after the race for exceeding the prescribed speed during a Safety Car period, but he escaped with just a reprimand.

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/8736986/Grosjean-slapped-with-grid-penalty

Monaco GP: Ferrari puts Felipe Massa's crash down to car problem

"Today's accident looked very similar to what happened in the third free practice session, but in fact the two incidents are very different," said Fry.

"Unlike yesterday, it seems that today's incident can be attributed to a problem on the left front corner of the car.

"It's too early to say precisely what happened and in the next few days, we will try and ascertain the exact cause back in Maranello."

Team boss Stefano Domenicali added that Massa's participation in the next Formula 1 race in Canada in a fortnight was not in doubt.

"Fortunately, despite the violence of the impact, he is fine and has already gone home and I believe that in the space of a few days he will back in perfect shape and ready to race in Montreal," said Domenicali.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107707

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Doing a refresh of my 33 and can see a few websites stating they sell the entire main carpet for our cars, but they all have generic photos which is fine, i understand they are custom made to order.  Just seeing if anyone has got it done or had any experience with this, as i would only want to do it if the fit and finish was as good as oem https://carmatsdirect.com.au/products/moulded-carpet-or-vinyl-for-nissan-skyline-r33-1993-1998-coupe https://knoxautocarpets.com.au/moulded-carpets/nissan/skyline/skyline-r-33-1993-1998/
    • Any plans for E85? If so, add flex fuel sensor.   I'd probably add in the sensors I mentioned above if the Link will support using them for engine protection. With water pressure, you need to be able to effectively set it that "If temp > X, and pressure = atmospheric, shutdown" as at running temp, you should be able to read pressure in the cooling system. If pressure suddenly disappears, it means the water went some where, and this is a quicker reaction than waiting on water temp to go up (Which, can take a little longer than you'd like, considering it now has to wait for hot air to heat it up) Oil pressure, Oil temp, both would be on my list too if you're looking to add sensors. Wideband O2. And at least one EGT sensor. If you're feeling deluxe, put in individual runner EGTs. Single EGT sensor is more so forget about a specific number, get used to "What is normal EGTs", and then keep an eye on it, if it starts going away from "normal" it's a sign something is wrong (Also, things like the tune can still start going out of spec, but EGTs may not show it, for example one injector starts running leaning, so ECU richens everything up, now 5 out of 6 cylinders are rich, and running cool, with one cylinder lean and running hotter, so it's not perfect) Then there is your other things to look at non sensor related, but you may have already done, or have underway, and that would be things like building a sump for more oil, and better oil control under high G-Forces (Cornering, brakes, acceleration). Basically, the above is worth looking/thinking about, if the ECU can do protective stuff with it, and you continue to use it how you are (Drive it to the track, thrash it, drive home, repeat once every 3 to 4 months)
    • Can also confirm these work a treat for most balljoints and bushes. If you have access to a big rattle gun, they make the job so much easier and quicker, compared to using a socket wrench or shifter on the c-clamp 👍
    • Its sort of street but got used for circuit sprints on account of I never drive it on the road because I dont have the time to spare. So it usage was sits around for months at a time then gets driven either 50 or 250 kms to the track followed by 20 laps followed by 50 or 250kms home followed by stuck in the shed until next time. So yeah neither fish nor fowl. Just dont want to break it on the track as a preference. Hence the fairly short sensor/mod list. Probably more worried about it pinging itself to destruction more so than anything oil related.
    • My thing I'd be doing, is pulling it out, and just getting the tune cleaned up for now. Before that even happens, checking over everything, like vac hoses, fuel hoses, etc. No point dropping thousands on sensors if the moment you start it back up all the oil leaks out, or it has massive vacuum leaks etc.   But really, to know what to do, depends on what your use case is. Hard core track car? Throw most sensors available at it. Street car, I'd probably just run oil pressure, oil temps, water pressure, water temp, probably fuel pressure too. I don't know exactly what the Link can handle and do with those though. And if it's mainly just to cruise the streets, rather than mountain runs, you can probably skip most of the above if you've already got them in as gauges and warning lights.   PS, inb4 "sell it and buy a modern sportscar"
×
×
  • Create New...