Formula 1 2013

[djr81]

lol Brundle said if Schumacher had the same points system during his career as Alonso had during his, he'd have scored over 3600 points. That's handing out points like candy! And that's why making a special helmet to celebrate this massive achievement is a complete wank.

But it isnt just points, is it. It is wins, quali records, fastest laps. In 1965 there were all of ten gp's in a year. Some Scottish bloke called Clark something won the championship and he didnt even bother to enter all the races.

massa goes to williams = career over

like barrichello retiring from williams in 2011 lol

not sure if i missed it or not, but did finger boy not give the finger at all after the indian GP? could not find any pics either.

Like his career wasnt over years ago anyway?

Finger boy gave finger whilst doing donut. See top of previous page.

Edited October 29, 2013 by djr81

[PRO_32]

massa goes to williams = career over

like barrichello retiring from williams in 2011 lol

not sure if i missed it or not, but did finger boy not give the finger at all after the indian GP? could not find any pics either.

Me neither PR prolly told him finger gets you boo'd chuck some skids instead they seem to like that.

[Roy]

Am I the only one hoping he was going to drop it doing skids. Maybe the rear wing into the pit wall!

[hrd-hr30]

But it isnt just points, is it. It is wins, quali records, fastest laps. In 1965 there were all of ten gp's in a year. Some Scottish bloke called Clark something won the championship and he didnt even bother to enter all the races.

exactly - celebrating his record breaking points haul in front of the world is ludicrous. But he obviously thinks its an important and meaningful achievement. Far more arrogant than anything Vettel's ever done. Imagine the vitriol if Vettel dares to celebrate his actual achievement on his helmet...

[ctjet]

doesnt he?

[djr81]

exactly - celebrating his record breaking points haul in front of the world is ludicrous. But he obviously thinks its an important and meaningful achievement. Far more arrogant than anything Vettel's ever done. Imagine the vitriol if Vettel dares to celebrate his actual achievement on his helmet...

Not arrogant so much as lame. Anyway Tool is too busy redesigning his helmet every 5 minutes to worry about counting points.

[Nee-san]

I thought they were bringing in regulations forcing the drivers to keep the same helmet.

[hrd-hr30]

doesnt he?

no he doesn't. he does helmet designs with things like all the red bull staff (below), or all the mechanics, or paying tribute to some of the greats of the past.

Alonso went out of his way to change his helmet design to make sure the world paid attention to the fact that he passed Schumacher's points total, even though its a meaningless claim with the amount of points they give away these days, as eplained before - on corrected figures he's not even halfway to what Schumacher's total would be.

I agree it's lame, but it's also a bit "look at me, I am the greatest"

Not arrogant so much as lame. Anyway Tool is too busy redesigning his helmet every 5 minutes to worry about counting points.

too busy counting World Drivers Championships instead

Edited October 29, 2013 by hrd-hr30

[PRO_32]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24725406

So bbc reporting brawn is leaving at the end of the year with toto and paddy to run the show business and technical respectively.

[Roy]

And Jordan who seems to have an uncanny knack of making these calls said several months ago that Brawn will be going to Williams

[PRO_32]

Imagine that Williams with brawn pull a rabbit out of a hat in 2014 and massa is faster than Alonso.

[sh@un]

back-to-back races, yay

Abba Dabbi, boo

[Nee-san]

I didn't even know Vettel had won it until I read it in here yesterday.

That's probably a low point for me and I've been watching it for a very long time considering how old I am.

Edited October 29, 2013 by Nee-san

[ctjet]

Brawn is now defintely going

but will it be to Mclaren as reported?

[Roy]

He isnt going to replace Whitmarsh which is the role he wants. At McLaren he wotn have the autonomy he wants and he didnt like how Honda went about their F1 program so no loyalty there. I think if anything Williams makes alot of sense as Frank and co woudl welcome him with open arms and frees up Pat Symiodns to be the tech director

[djr81]

He isnt going to replace Whitmarsh which is the role he wants. At McLaren he wotn have the autonomy he wants and he didnt like how Honda went about their F1 program so no loyalty there. I think if anything Williams makes alot of sense as Frank and co woudl welcome him with open arms and frees up Pat Symiodns to be the tech director

Plus it will give them a much needed boost to their tech department. Time to buy Williams shares?

[tweety bird]

yes!

god i want this to happen!

[Roy]

The more I think about it the more it makes sense to me....but who knows. What else is Brawn going to do? Williams would be a great home for him and with Maldanado gone gives them a few options with regards to getting a bankable driver in there. Not enthused about it being Massa, I think I would rather Di Resta or someone. A return of Hulk would be great but Hulk I think is past having to gamble with a team taking a step up in performance.

[djr81]

The more I think about it the more it makes sense to me....but who knows. What else is Brawn going to do? Williams would be a great home for him and with Maldanado gone gives them a few options with regards to getting a bankable driver in there. Not enthused about it being Massa, I think I would rather Di Resta or someone. A return of Hulk would be great but Hulk I think is past having to gamble with a team taking a step up in performance.

The problem is they need coin as they dont have any other sponsorship worth much. I had hoped they could follow on from last years results but clearly this years car is a dog. Its the old story - poor car leads to no sponsorship or winnings, leads to no money spent leads to poor car etc etc etc. They have been talking it up year on year ever since BMW did the dirty on them. Got it right once, last year, but other than that it has just been slowly getting worse.

You go to a GP now and you only really see a few teams being supported. Redbull & Team Cheater Adu Dhabi are there in spades. Followed by McLaren (Mostly Brits) and MB. Lotus tend to have quite abit of support but I guess that is mostly because of Kimi rather than the confected heritage. Of the rest you can barely find merch. There is a tiny bit of Caterham and Force it India about but at the races you cant even buy a team Willy tshirt if you wanted one. No one even knows who Marussia are.

It is one of the bullshit things about F1 is that some teams get more in winnings for the same results as others. Mostly RB & SF given the current agreements.

Edited October 30, 2013 by djr81

[Roy]

Its true. Of the GPs I have been to the only people with Williams merch are the stores otuside sellign old BMW-Williams gear etc. No current gear. But whilst I like the team it doesnt help they have a tool and a softly spoken rookie for drivers.

Re funnding. PDVSA are going to have to hand over funding due to their exit prior to the end of their contract ... so thats some cash and reports have Massa and Bernie sweetening the deal to keep Brazilian money and interest in F1. So their budget wont be too shabby, but wont be great. They relaly need some Chinese oil money