Formula 1 2013

[Roy]

Oh, an dhow did Hulk not get a penalty for his off track excursion and pass?

[sh@un]

Stewarding still seems remarkably inconsistent

Imagine if this was the highest level of tarmac racing in the world? oh, wait...

[hrd-hr30]

2013 INDIAN GRAND PRIX

The FIA Stewards of the Meeting

From

The FIA Stewards of the Meeting

To

The Team Manager

Sauber F1 Team

Document

35

Date

27 October 2013

Time

16:07

The Stewards, having received a report from the Race Director, examined video evidence, have

considered the following matter and determine the following.

No / Driver

11 - Nico Hulkenberg

Competitor

Sauber F1 Team

Time

15:40

Session

Race

Fact

Car 11 left the track at turn 4 and gained an advantage

Offence

Alleged breach of Article 20.2 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations.

Decision

No Further Action.

Reason

Car 11 left the track at turn 4 but did so to avoid a potential collision with car 17,

therefore the Stewards feel no advantage was gained.

Gerd Ennser Steve Stringwell

Tom Kristensen Kamlesh Patel

The way I remember it, Hulkenberg had already completed the pass on the straight before the turn. Bottas came steaming in under brakes like a muppet not realising he had no hope of passing him back, locked up and made a complete balls up of the corner. Hulk took avoiding action - that's the only reason he went off the track. If not for that, Hulk would have had no problem saying on the road. So it's a good decision.

As for consistency, the situation was nothing like Dan going off at 130R where the only reason he ran wide was he went in overcommitted to make the pass, or Grosjean at Spa who only ran wide because he was trying to force his way around the outside. Personally I don't agree that either of those moves should be penalised either, but they are very different circumstances to this.

Edited October 30, 2013 by hrd-hr30

[Roy]

LOL, I love these discussions. We very rarely see things the same way. I happen to agree Dan & STR were silly and that his move was never going to happen if he didnt run wide. Romains I think was a little more line ball in Hungary....but he bashed Button so deserved a haircut anyway.

But Hulk in India? That is the clearest case of gaining an advantge by running off track I can think of...nowhere near passed...Bottas does the done thing and forces him wide as Hulk is on teh outside and rather than lift he just drives off the circuit and past!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7E2hIFa670

[hrd-hr30]

ha - didn't quite go the way I remembered it! lol

I must be confusing it with another incident -too many beers perhaps.

Bottas only ever looked concerned with running him off the road though - the business of the corner was clearly a distant second in his mind. When the guy passing you has half a car length in front by the apex, you pretty much have to leave him room.

Edited October 31, 2013 by hrd-hr30

[yogi000]

hey guys,

just looking for some opinions on melbourne f1 seats

has anyone done these ones?

http://www.gpadvantage.com.au/tickets/four-day-grandstand/schumacher-premium-grandstand

http://www.gpadvantage.com.au/tickets/four-day-grandstand/world-champion-grandstand

http://www.gpadvantage.com.au/tickets/four-day-grandstand/brabham-grandstand

thanks

[wolverine]

IMO Jones is the pick for raceday.

[JAS-25T]

Yeah Jones is the go.

get to turn 9/10 for some good action too, but don't need a grandstand ticket there.

[tweety bird]

[FordyR31]

Hi guys,

Looking to book tickets to Melb 2014 F1. Where do you buy tickets? Found online Prices starting from 149 for general admission 4 day pass. When you go to buy they bump up the price for using your card and add a delivery charge of $20 for an envelope. It suggests going to an outlet but when I searched, nothing comes up. Is there an outlet in Sydney I can walk in to and buy tickets?

Thanks.

[Roy]

My advice...bugger Aus....go to the Malaysian GP! Cheaper and you get a good holiday and way better vantage point for the race

[ctjet]

Dont got to Malaysia. Its a terrible place, with terrible people, in unbearable weather and a truly terrible weekend of events

[ctjet]

Hi guys,

Looking to book tickets to Melb 2014 F1. Where do you buy tickets? Found online Prices starting from 149 for general admission 4 day pass.

The legit and only resource i trust

https://grandprix.foxtix.com.au/online/

If you were so inclined... you can also buy a student ticket for less than $100 and believe me when i tell you, fcuking nobody is going to check it. NOBODY.

Other people that are definitely not me have been doing this for years

When you go to buy they bump up the price for using your card and add a delivery charge of $20 for an envelope

last i remember it was less than 10 bucks. the site your using may be trying to make up the cost of the cheap tickets by raping you on postage

Is there an outlet in Sydney I can walk in to and buy tickets?

Not anymore. Fox tickets have taken over from Ticketek and as far as i can tell they post all their assorted weekend passes out, or you can collect them from these shitty little booths they set up a few days (a week?) before the race where you can pick your stuff up

Thanks.

no worries habib

[MattR]

Dont got to Malaysia. Its a terrible place, with terrible people, in unbearable weather and a truly terrible weekend of events

I liked the Malaysia race. only stayed in KL for the weekend then went to Penang for a fortnight Holiday after. Having no support races is a downfall but good vantage points at the track itself. the beer on track is bloody expensive but that may have changed

[ctjet]

so given the choice, Melbourne or Malaysia?

(dont be bitter and choose Adelaide)

[djr81]

I liked the Malaysia race. only stayed in KL for the weekend then went to Penang for a fortnight Holiday after. Having no support races is a downfall but good vantage points at the track itself. the beer on track is bloody expensive but that may have changed

Money aside, the difference is in the tracks and in the support. Broadly at a street race you will see less of the cars and what you do see will probably be slower. On the flip side the support at last years Melbourne GP was Can Am cars, V8's, Porkers with drivers you have heard of and the Living End played. Overseas support races tend to be at a lower level or of categories that you give no fk for and the concerts are nonsense that you missus may like.

The unfortunate part of the GP being in Melbourne is that you then have to go to Melbourne and the track is rubbish. There is more to see but you will see less of it.

Malaysia you will see more of whatever there is to see - which wont be as much. But if you smuggle some drugs home with you things will be sweet.

Or just pick somewhere else and go for a weeks holiday off the back of the race.

Edited November 1, 2013 by djr81

[FordyR31]

Cheers for the info. Im going to Melb, not Malaysia lol. The official grand prix website was the site for 149 and 20 postage plus card fee. Looks like the way to go.

Thanks

[tweety bird]

Grosjean was quickest in p1.

[Roy]

COME ON ROMAIN!!!!

...runs off to check sportsbet

[Kinks]

Looking to book tickets to Melb 2014 F1. Where do you buy tickets?

I've gone to Melbourne a few times using www.grandprixtravel.com.au

www.grandprix.com.au is the same site with a different layout and inflated prices, the travel URL expects you to buy tickets with accom so it ends up being a package deal.

If you have someone's couch to sleep on then buy tickets by themselves but otherwise it is better to do a package deal and get everything together. Accom pricing is massively inflated, the biggest tip I have is do not stay at the Mercure Welcome, Mercure is a good name but adding the Welcome part is like saying I want to eat at Crown Casino Dumpster. For slightly more money you can stay somewhere MUCH nicer (you are getting ripped off anyway you might as well pay a bit more and enjoy the experience).