Formula 1 2013

[wolverine]

The slow Finn couldn't keep it up but that is no surprise due to a lack of familiarity and driving time.

Hard to believe but apparently Button wasn't happy with the balance or grip....again/still??

[Roy]

What was with Mark just walking off? LOL, guessing he just wants off the ride asap. Maybe too much that he simply cant match Vettel more than once in 2013

[Roy]

Bottas...great job

[hrd-hr30]

yeah good drives from Bottas, Perez, and Hulkenberg (again). And Grosjean really is looking like he's found his feet in F1 these days.

Vernge again showing his good race pace - despite crap qualifying he was right there at the end fighting with Dan on the last lap before being hit by a mexican...

Edited November 17, 2013 by hrd-hr30

[ctjet]

Man, that race is not only hard to get up for, its also hard to stay awake in

I don't understand how much more impressive Hulk has to be to get a seat worth anything. I'll be bitterly disappointed if that fcuking hack loser Maldonado ends up with a Lotus seat while Nico is left to trundle around for the minor positions again ins a god damn force india

[dezz]

What was with Mark just walking off? LOL, guessing he just wants off the ride asap. Maybe too much that he simply cant match Vettel more than once in 2013

He's turned in to a real dick lately, every answer is just a f**king list of excuses as to why he got destroyed by his team mate in the same car.

[Roy]

Vernge again showing his good race pace - despite crap qualifying he was right there at the end fighting with Dan on the last lap before being hit by a mexican...

Umm, who got the penalty for hatchet racing? I genuinely believe leading up to the RBR announcement about Webbers replacement you could make the argument that JEV should have at least been able to test the car at Silverstone and worthy of the seat

Outside of Dan binning it at Singapore....I cant recall JEV getting near Q3, beating Dan in a race. JEV needs to get his head straight and lift his game and start qualifying better. I think the argument of his racing ability falls under serious scrutiny when a car prves its capable of qualifying 10th and getting a point and you qualify 15th or something and over the course of the race get the car up to 11th which is where the car should have been all along

[Aggroman]

my recording stopped at the end of lap 51 fkn useless POS thing!

Im guessing webber couldnt pass grosjean at teh end and had to settle for 3rd?

[hrd-hr30]

Outside of Dan binning it at Singapore....I cant recall JEV getting near Q3, beating Dan in a race. JEV needs to get his head straight and lift his game and start qualifying better. I think the argument of his racing ability falls under serious scrutiny when a car prves its capable of qualifying 10th and getting a point and you qualify 15th or something and over the course of the race get the car up to 11th which is where the car should have been all along

I've given up on him as far as qualy goes - he just can't do it on those Pirellis. He was apparently a very good qualifier in other series running proper tyres.

As for race results, you might want to go look at the actual results for a reminder about him beating Dan in a race...

[Roy]

Just looked. There was a few retirements in there but since Canada he has beat Dan once in Hungary. I suppose you can say twice if you want to include Japan where he finished one place ahead after Dan got that drive through for overtaking off the road...extra stop and still finishes just behind team mate.

And Singapore after crashing out. 3 points finishes vs 7...I can see why I formed the opinion i did

[hrd-hr30]

hmmm, you stick it into JEV for his drive through penalty, and then make excuses for Dan's drive through penalty and want that race not to count... JEV's also retired from a couple of points positions through no fault of his own, which shews the comparison you're making a bit.

But I've given up on him. Since the RBR driver decision, he hasn't done much that's noteworthy. He was on a bit of a streak earlier in the season, since then it's totally dried up. It got to the point where it was remarkably like backing Webber - you just knew you were going to be dissapointed. I'd still back him to beat Dan in the wet though, where this pirelli tyre nonsense isn't a factor and it's goes back to being able to drive on the limit.

Edited November 18, 2013 by hrd-hr30

[Roy]

No Dans drive thru counted....I was typing as I postee. So its 3 results since Canada. I dont think he has beat him on track since Canada when looking at weekends when one or both havent messed up

[Sub Boy32]

F1 needs:

Bigger tyres

Better tyres

Less Aero

Refuelling

Lose the DRS

Let drivers drive the cars hard......not baby the tyres because they are shit

Give the cars more mechanical grip and less aero for closer racing and passing

[Roy]

Keen to read next months F1 mag with the full article.

http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2013/11/15276.html

Having a BBQ and piss up at mine from 3am Monday morning before work to see the old boy off

[ctjet]

[hrd-hr30]

so long since he's won, it's in black and white!

Hulk has signed back with Force India for 2014. Means Maldonardo is almost a dead certanty for Lotus now.

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/hulkenberg-agrees-a-deal-to-return-to-force-india-in-2014

[djr81]

Random, trainspotterish question. Does the amount of money the teams get from the whatever fund depend on their position in the table or the amount of points? So Williams actually scored some points last weekend but are still in the same position. So do they end up with more coin?

Edited November 21, 2013 by djr81

[Roy]

Personally, I would be sticking with Sauber over Force India. But obviously he has an idea of strengths of respective teams so doesnt look good for Sauber's prospects next year if Force India appear stronger on paper.

Oh well, say goodbye to any hopes of Lotus having a good year. Maldando will be bending the car that often their factory will be working overtime to keep up with replacement parts let alone develop the car.

I guess that means Di Resta is gone as well. Shame as the guy has some spunk and in hindsight McLaren would have been far better taking Di Resta rather than Perez last year. (or Hulk for that matter...still dont get the whole Perez thing unless a big part was potential Mexican coin)

[hrd-hr30]

That article said Sauber's financial position is the problem. Looks like the Russian money might fall through. Same goes for Lotus' dubvious sponsorship deals aparently. On performance, I agree with you, Sauber (well, Hulk's Sauber) look stronger than Force India. But that could be down to the drivers a bit too. Sutil's been a bit dissapointing since the comeback I thought and DiResta I'm not a fan of - rate him average at best.

Some are suggesting Perez was only ever a stop-gap measure for McLaren before they brought in their next young gun from within their own program. Sounds plausible considering the Hamilton move was a bit of a surprise and they had to come up with a plan for 2013 pretty quickly.

[ctjet]

reg change video for 2014

some promising stuff

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/video/f1-technik-reglement-2014-im-video-7913407.html