Fugly Rego Stickers Gone

[bored33]

It's a bloody sticker...

You people and your first world problems...

*cough*

Mine will be removed the first chance I get to take the car out.

I thought the police can scan your plates with all the information on it anyways pretty much instantly. You SHOULD get a letter in the mail when your registration is almost due at least one month prior (well I do anyways so I'm assuming that is the norm). If someone causes an accident or is going to do something dodgy, the sticker isn't going to do shit for you anyways. "QUICK, anyone read the sticker on that Gemini??" come on... really...? If you are concerned they are carrying fake details then you bring in the police to address the situation. Do you really think people don't have fake rego stickers on their car? Not exactly rocket science to forge one.

Disclaimer: Not that I have EVER done this or know person(s) that have done this

[SargeRX8]

My only concern with this was forgetting when rego was due, but I remembered we get reminder letters 28 days before.

Then again mine was always placed on the rear little window so was never in the way anyway.

[MBS206]

Removal of rego makes this rule seem quite usable if you're not the owner...

50B Vehicles being driven by persons unaware of registration status

For the purposes of section 18 (2) (b) of the Act, the use of an unregistered registrable vehicle on a road or on a road related area is permitted if the person using the vehicle:

(a) was not the responsible person for the vehicle at the relevant time, and

(b) can establish that he or she did not know, and could not reasonably have known, that the vehicle was unregistered at the relevant time.

[The Bogan]

I liked my rego sticker, it had the engineering mod number thingie on it.

All in all who cares, police scan my plates, pull me over for a chat then let me roll, which I believe is a good thing, the scanning will keep a heap of dodgy unregoed cars of the road.

Plus hopefully it will help with car theft.

[luke gtr]

Go to buy car, no rego sticker, can't find papers, ok on revs.

take their word its regod?

[NXTIME]

go to RMS website and check to see if it is rego'd. There is also one or two apps around that can do this via mobile.

For me, it is best used as a reminder that rego is due...and with a number of cars that I renew rego for, it is important.

MBS206, so who isresponsible if the car is not registered/insured and has an accident?

[The Bogan]

  On 03/01/2013 at 12:05 PM, luke GTR said:

Go to buy car, no rego sticker, can't find papers, ok on revs.

take their word its regod?

If I went and looked at a car for sale and they didnt have the rego papers I would walk.

[NXTIME]

+1

[533 RYC]

  On 01/01/2013 at 3:14 AM, SargeRX8 said:

Then again mine was always placed on the rear little window so was never in the way anyway.

This was always the preferred place for rego stickers, why? So when you get pulled over at night & they shine their torch on it, they can see who or what else is in the car. What excuse are they going to come up with now?

[luke gtr]

  On 03/01/2013 at 12:13 PM, mlr said:

If I went and looked at a car for sale and they didnt have the rego papers I would walk.

I've literally lost rego papers before, only reason I thought of it.

and if you travel a couple of hours, it checks out on revs all you legally need is a written recipt.

[MBS206]

  On 03/01/2013 at 12:13 PM, NXTIME said:

go to RMS website and check to see if it is rego'd. There is also one or two apps around that can do this via mobile.

For me, it is best used as a reminder that rego is due...and with a number of cars that I renew rego for, it is important.

MBS206, so who isresponsible if the car is not registered/insured and has an accident?

I have no idea who would be responsible, but the above is a C&P from the legislation website of the legislation currently in effect.

Obviously the person who crashes would be responsible for the other car IMO, but they have an EXTREMELY good standpoint to getting out of the "I never knew it wasn't registered" clause.

[GTR-N1]

If you receive in the mail two things, a) your rego renewal and b) your CTP renewal > yet still, you let your rego lapse > you're deemed as knowing - but failing to renew.

[luke gtr]

  On 04/01/2013 at 12:00 PM, Terry_GT-R34 said:

If you receive in the mail two things, a) your rego renewal and b) your CTP renewal > yet still, you let your rego lapse > you're deemed as knowing - but failing to renew.

hes talking, if YOU let it lapse, and SOMEONE borrows the car from my understanding.

[MBS206]

  On 04/01/2013 at 12:00 PM, Terry_GT-R34 said:

If you receive in the mail two things, a) your rego renewal and b) your CTP renewal > yet still, you let your rego lapse > you're deemed as knowing - but failing to renew.

Terry, if you let your rego lapse, you know. But now I come and borrow your car with lapsed rego and you go "oh yeah the wife would have paid it" isn't it reasonable for me to assume it's registered since unless I'm all like "woah woah woah! Hold up a minute lemme get on the Internet here..." but then, I may not have reception for my Internet etc etc.

Hence, everyone go register the car in their partners name, you keep driving it, stop paying rego. It's reasonable to assume the car is registered since you don't own it

[bored33]

  On 05/01/2013 at 12:59 AM, MBS206 said:

Terry, if you let your rego lapse, you know. But now I come and borrow your car with lapsed rego and you go "oh yeah the wife would have paid it" isn't it reasonable for me to assume it's registered since unless I'm all like "woah woah woah! Hold up a minute lemme get on the Internet here..." but then, I may not have reception for my Internet etc etc.

Hence, everyone go register the car in their partners name, you keep driving it, stop paying rego. It's reasonable to assume the car is registered since you don't own it

Not sure if you are serious or just teasing but then wouldn't your partner be responsible and thus susceptible to the full extent of the law and be fined?

I don't think you can avoid paying rego.

edit:

example: A lot of times i stay over my friends place from a big night and get parked in by my other mates. Usually I just take one off their keys and take the closest car outside to do what I need to do and then come back and collect my own car when everyone is sober and awake.

Now, I drive my mates car and get pulled over. Car is unregistered and I claim "not my car" then so be it. More than likely since the car is unregistered, wouldn't the police stop me from driving the car? That is, I would have to leave the car there, ring one off me other mates and get them to pick me up. Obviously the police can find out who the owner is, issue a fine and get it sent to their address.

Only burden to me is having to get a taxi or get someone to pick me up but my mate will be issued a fine and will have to pay rego unless he wants his car parked in the side of the road somewhere and get raided or burnt, whatever.

edit edit:

I reread what you said and I think I know what you are trying to say but I highly doubt you can get away with that excuse and not paying the rego very long. Cops will have it on record the car is unregistered and if they actually do their jobs, it would be followed up.

[GTR-N1]

Matt, If I allowed you to borrow my car...

1) it's my responsibility to inform you that the car is unregistered if the rego has become invalid and

2) the CTP will have also lapsed which means I will have abrogated my responsibility to you if you got injured in a crash

[MBS206]

  On 05/01/2013 at 1:10 AM, bored33 said:

Not sure if you are serious or just teasing but then wouldn't your partner be responsible and thus susceptible to the full extent of the law and be fined?

I don't think you can avoid paying rego.

edit:

example: A lot of times i stay over my friends place from a big night and get parked in by my other mates. Usually I just take one off their keys and take the closest car outside to do what I need to do and then come back and collect my own car when everyone is sober and awake.

Now, I drive my mates car and get pulled over. Car is unregistered and I claim "not my car" then so be it. More than likely since the car is unregistered, wouldn't the police stop me from driving the car? That is, I would have to leave the car there, ring one off me other mates and get them to pick me up. Obviously the police can find out who the owner is, issue a fine and get it sent to their address.

Only burden to me is having to get a taxi or get someone to pick me up but my mate will be issued a fine and will have to pay rego unless he wants his car parked in the side of the road somewhere and get raided or burnt, whatever.

edit edit:

I reread what you said and I think I know what you are trying to say but I highly doubt you can get away with that excuse and not paying the rego very long. Cops will have it on record the car is unregistered and if they actually do their jobs, it would be followed up.

I don't know how they can fine your mate in the scenario above.

You were at a house and borrowed a car, is it not fair to assume the car was being "kept" at the house and was unregistered? There is no law forcing him to register it.

The only way he could be fined is if he goes to drive the car home once you have been pulled over in it. If he gets it towed, no problem. The police need to prove he was driving it, just because a car and it's keys are easily accessible at another persons residence does not mean it has been driven knowingly unlawfully.

For example my car had been trailered ages and ages ago to my mothers house, placed in the driveway, keys were on the side bench, car was in good condition, is it not fair for someone in your scenario above to assume it was registered?

I feel borrowing someones car in your scenario above and finding out it is unregistered later you should not be able to be fined as it is reasonable to assume that car was registered.

[MBS206]

  On 05/01/2013 at 1:10 AM, Terry_GT-R34 said:

Matt, If I allowed you to borrow my car...

1) it's my responsibility to inform you that the car is unregistered if the rego has become invalid and

2) the CTP will have also lapsed which means I will have abrogated my responsibility to you if you got injured in a crash

That may be your responsibility, and now I borrow your car, you inform me it's all valid (and it is) three days later I still have your car but rego lapses, you forget about it and don't re register it. There is no law saying you have to cone and tell me (and therefore nothing to penalize you for) and it was reasonable for me to assume the car was still registered.

The police can only fine you for things that are written into legislation.

[MBS206]

Another thought, is this only NSW scrappin the stickers?

What happens when someone drives interstate if we're the only ones scrapping then?

Legislation states that you have to abide by each states road and traffic act (yes, while rules went "national" each state still has varying rules) one of those is te displaying of rego labels. Doesn't this now mean that I can be fined in SA for example (if they still require labels) for not displaying a valid rego label?

[r32-25t]

Nsw is actually one of the last states to still use rego stickers